Bacon’s Rebellion: Virginia Should Issue Immunity Certificates

Link to source.

I dunno. I see issues:

  • Immunity is a physical trait over which a person has no meaningful control, like skin color or birth ethnicity.
  • Would it be fair to discriminate against non-immune people, condemning them, potentially, to poverty and social disenfranchisement?
  • How do we then pick winners and losers among the immune?

18 thoughts on “Bacon’s Rebellion: Virginia Should Issue Immunity Certificates

      1. “Turns out, the Germans are planning to do just that”

        Shoot, I just said that WITHOUT reading the link.

        And Mr. Bacon’s statement, …”the person presumably is immune to the sickness”… has a bit of a hole in it. The hole is labeled “PRESUMABLY”. I don’t believe it is a good idea to presume anything when it comes to virus transmission. “Immunity” does not translate as “not carrying and/or transmitting”. A bit of sureness would be beneficial.

        Do we need to get the economy back up and running? Absolutely. But do we need to take chances that because someone is immune does not guarantee that the individual is not carrying the bug? I’d rather not have the health of my family jeopardized because someone tests immune.

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        1. RE: “And Mr. Bacon’s statement, …’the person presumably is immune to the sickness’… has a bit of a hole in it. The hole is labeled ‘PRESUMABLY’.”

          The presumption seems like a pretty good one to me. Immunity is actually how vaccines work to stop the spread of infection. Wikipedia has a good article on the subject, if you’re interested:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

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          1. Are you willing to come in contact with someone who is presumably immune? And I believe there is a difference between “herd immunity” and actual immunity. They are not synonymous. And if that were true, why would we be advised to get an annual flu shot?

            Also, immunity does not mean you can’t be a carrier. PASS.

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          2. RE: “And I believe there is a difference between ‘herd immunity’ and actual immunity.”

            The only difference is that herd immunity is what you get when lots of people have “actual immunity.”

            RE: “Also, immunity does not mean you can’t be a carrier.”

            Being a carrier and being a carrier who may infect others are two different things. As a rule, immunity means that whatever infection you may develop will not become inflamed, making you contagious.

            If you are not comfortable being around people with immunity, are you also not comfortable being around people who have been vaccinated?

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        2. “ Also, immunity does not mean you can’t be a carrier. PASS.”

          Yeah, that might be the bigger problem. If you have the ID for immunity, just being out in public could be considered the act of a reckless and potentially dangerous person.

          So you need to carry your immune certificate and your negative test proof.

          “Your papers please.”

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          1. Well, yes, that’s the point. A person who tests positive for antibodies cannot carry the disease actively.

            Sure, an immune person can touch an infected person and then touch you and passively transfer the virus, but he isn’t going to actively shed virus on you.

            Serologically immune people are a great boon to the rest of us as they can safely perform many services we need without putting us at risk that the normal hand washing precautions won’t protect us against.

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          2. No one is talking about shooting the immune, they are being singled out for special privileges, such as being able to work and go about their daily lives while those not immune must remain isolated.

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  1. First, the idea comes from Germany. They are experienced in this sort of thing.

    I guarantee you this, if the state issues a certificate that allows a person to go to bars, restaurants, church, work etc., today, then you willi be able to buy on on EBay tomorrow.

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