De-Nazification again?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/exclusive-russia-s-secret-document-for-destabilizing-moldova/ar-AA18Devm
 
“On Friday, John Kirby, the spokesperson for the National Security Council, made a surprise announcement at a White House press briefing. U.S. intelligence, he said, had determined that the Kremlin was plotting to topple another European democracy. “Russian actors, some with current ties to Russian intelligence, are seeking to stage and use protests in Moldova as a basis to foment a manufactured insurrection against the Moldovan government,” Kirby declared.”

Same play, different stage. Create a fake separatist movement and attack later. Look on the map, Moldova is on the doorstep of NATO. It has no border with Russia. Russia cut gas to them and we have been keeping Moldova with enough to get through a fortunately mild winter. Georgia, Chechnya, Ukraine and now Moldova. Fool me once, twice, three, now four times…at some point we need to realize this is war on Europe from a delusional megalomaniac.

18 thoughts on “De-Nazification again?

  1. RE: “at some point we need to realize this is war on Europe from a delusional megalomaniac.”

    No thanks. This sentiment sounds too much like the third rule of propaganda: “Our adversary’s leader is evil and looks evil.”

    I don’t doubt that Russia is following the active measures playbook in Moldova, Belarus and elsewhere as defined by defector Yuri Bezmenov:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Bezmenov

    However, I’m concerned that Russia will be successful because the U.S. and the European Union are weak. So, for me, investing in the idea that our adversary’s leader is evil and looks evil doesn’t help anything.

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    1. I don’t agree that the Moldovan problem exists is because Putin is evil. It is because there is a direct military threat by a man who has expansionist policies that depend upon military might.

      Geographically, Moldova is European and Europe does not need Russia any closer to its borders than currently the case. Putin has shown his hand at least 4 times now, and if we don’t acknowledge his land grabs, there is no reason he would proceed with the Baltic states, Romania, etc. he has stated time and again in speeches that a greater Russia is the goal.

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      1. RE: “Putin has shown his hand at least 4 times now, and if we don’t acknowledge his land grabs, there is no reason he would proceed with the Baltic states, Romania, etc. he has stated time and again in speeches that a greater Russia is the goal.”

        Are you saying you believe in the “Domino Theory”?

        Apart from that, I do not believe Putin has ever said he wants to expand Russian territory. If he has, I’d like to read his comments.

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          1. I’m not sure what links and posts you have in mind, but those I remember generally attributed to Putin things he never said.

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          2. https://huri.harvard.edu/news/putin-historical-unity

            This is a good interview with an historian outlining Russia, USSR, Russia again and Ukraine.

            “ It is now that radicals and nationalists, including and primarily those in Ukraine, are taking credit for having gained independence. As we can see, this is absolutely wrong. The disintegration of our united country was brought about by the historic, strategic mistakes on the part of the Bolshevik leaders and the C.P.S.U. leadership, mistakes committed at different times in state-building and in economic and ethnic policies. The collapse of the historical Russia known as the U.S.S.R. is on their conscience.” Putin

            Link should be “gifted”.

            https://theconversation.com/why-putin-has-such-a-hard-time-accepting-ukrainian-sovereignty-174029

            In the years leading up to Russia’s military actions, Putin and his allies often invoked the concept of the “Russian World” or “Russkiy Mir” – the idea that Russian civilization extends to everywhere that ethnic Russians live.”

            There are a lot more references to Putin’s views of Russia, Ukraine and the world.

            You can find transcripts I am sure, but these can get you started since you can’t recall what was posted in the last months.

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          3. RE: “There are a lot more references to Putin’s views of Russia, Ukraine and the world.”

            Neither of your links supports the view that Putin seeks the territorial expansion of Russia. Putin clearly has strong ideas about Russian history, but to my knowledge he has never expressed the hope of expanding the empire.

            It is impossible to talk about Ukraine when we keep having to address false perspectives based on little more than inferences.

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          4. …”to my knowledge”…

            That gives a lot of perspective into your thoughts and feelings on the matter. Your knowledge is limited because you refuse to consider opinions and observations that don’t feed in to you preconceived narrative. Your bubble may be warm and comfortable, but it tends to ignore factual information that doesn’t maintain the comfort level. – IMO

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          5. …”he has never expressed the hope of expanding the empire.”

            Correct. He wants to RECONSTITUE it. Historically, Ukraine WAS part of Russia. SO in his mind (and yours) it is not expansion and therefore invading his sovereign neighbor is just taking back what is rightfully Russia’s.

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          6. Like I said, Mr. Green, “It is impossible to talk about Ukraine when we keep having to address false perspectives based on little more than inferences.”

            You claim, in effect, to be able to see into Putin’s mind. Can you quote what you read there, or all of us supposed to take your opinions seriously just because you have them?

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          7. I knew I wasted my time. Putin sped straight to Kiev on land and air Last I checked that is hundreds of miles west of Donbas. Don’t fool yourself.

            End, over and out.

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          8. Your state of reality is questionable, at best. You only see what YOU want to see and only take input from those who support Putin. Your choice. A poor one, IIMO, but it is yours.

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          9. Trump, he was such a kidder.

            Putin, the same perhaps.

            The two are like Laurel and Hardy, Abbot and Costello, Bonnie and Clyde…

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