All he had to do was sit quietly and watch

Trump distracts from Twitter scandal 

Sometimes I am thankful for the Democrats ability to nominate greater evils. There is no other explanation for Trump getting elected the first time. 

With the Twitter files coming out the total corruption and un-American nature of the Democratic party and its elitist allies in Big Tech and the Deep State was playing out for all to see. The proof that a fraud was committed against the American voter through selective censorship and false dismissal of the evidence of the Biden family’ corruption is now undeniable. All Trump had to do is sit back and watch. 

But instead he suggests his loss in the election justifies disregarding the Rule of Law and even parts of the Constitution. There are no circumstances, not even war, that justify ignoring the Constitution.

He found a way to bring more negative attention to himself than was rightfully falling on the Democrats. Hopefully, he has made himself so unelectable that the GOP will turn away. 

110 thoughts on “All he had to do was sit quietly and watch

  1. “With the Twitter files coming out the total corruption and un-American nature of the Democratic party and its elitist allies in Big Tech and the Deep State was playing out for all to see.”

    Oh my!
    Corruption! Elitists! Big Tech! Deep State! Un-American!

    Tell us truthfully, do you really believe this nonsense? Or do you just enjoy the role of troll?

    As a reminder, the person suggesting we throw out the Constitution so he can stay in power is the person you have been loyally carrying water for since at least 2016.

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          1. Oh, my ridicule is warranted and then some. This diehard Trump supporter wishes he were now gone? Why? Because finally even he can see what a loser Trump is. Not because Trump is the con man, incompetent, liar, scofflaw, and criminal that he has been from day one. Nope. But being a loser? That we cannot abide.

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          2. Uh. I do not need a degree in psychology to understand what Tabor or you choose to write. The ability to read and understand plain English is all that is needed.

            Like many other fervent and here-to-fore obsequious supporters, Dr. Tabor is turning on Mr. Trump and wishing him gone. Why is he doing that? Thousands of Lies? Multiple Crimes? Insurrection? Incompetence? Sexual perversion? Nope. None of those. Trump’s sin is distracting attention from the Democrats and the latest phony scandal that has next to nothing to do with them. Can’t have that. Time for him to go. What a loser!

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          3. There’s that comprehension problem again,

            I have always said he was a lesser evil, and what the GOP needed to put some spine in them at the time.

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          4. “I have always said he was a lesser evil”
            Which is your weasel word way of saying that you support him. Duh. And doubly so since you buy into his dishonest bullshit about the “evil” of the Democratic Party which, by the way, is our largest and only mainstream political party still standing.

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          5. RE: “Like many other fervent and here-to-fore obsequious supporters, Dr. Tabor is turning on Mr. Trump and wishing him gone. Why is he doing that?”

            You could ask him instead of assuming you assume you know the answer without doing so. Or, you could respond to the actual statements in his post instead of disrespectfully changing the subject.

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          6. “Or, you could respond to the actual statements in his post ”

            Uh, that is exactly what I did. Duh. He gave his reason for wanting Trump gone. Trump is keeping the Musk Twitter “scandal” from the full attention he thinks it deserves.

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          7. Not exactly correct.

            I was commenting on Trump’s stupid need to be the center of attention when he and the rest of us are best served by letting the issue play out while he stays out of the spotlight.

            Trump’s policies were, with some exceptions like protectionism’ pretty good. But his narcissism is his downfall.

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          8. Trump was the useful idiot for the right wing caucus. I suppose most presidents curry favor with their party, but the collateral damage by Trump was astoundingly bad for our nation.

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          9. The caucus that is going to give McCarthy headaches. Add in the Federalist, Heritage and other think tanks and policy writers like ALEC. Not saying they don’t have a right to push conservative agendas. They told Trump what they needed and he did it. But pretty much any conservative president would have relied on them for input.

            But we got Trump.

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          10. “And their advice worked until the COVID Black Swan.”

            The path of the economy did not change until that Black Swan. It is more accurate to say, their advice did little harm. Unless you count destroying our global reputation and enormously increasing the debt for no good reason as a harm. As many do.

            Try to be honest. COVID was a test of Donald Trump and his chance for a good place in history. He failed the test – bigly.

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          11. “Not exactly correct.”

            Pretty close. His sin was siezing the spotlight and, in effect, keeping the Democrats from the attention you think they deserve over the Twitter dump. Now you are simply speaking of his motivation – his narcissism. Okay. Sure.

            The point I made still stands. It was this sin (and the losses he inflicted on the GOP) and not because Trump is the con man, incompetent, liar, scofflaw, and criminal that he has been from day one that has turned his previously obsequious and complicit supporters against him.

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  2. RE: “But instead he suggests his loss in the election justifies disregarding the Rule of Law and even parts of the Constitution. There are no circumstances, not even war, that justify ignoring the Constitution.”

    I think Trump has a point. If a corrupted democracy elects an illegitimate government, no subsequent election can be valid.

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    1. What can be done is to prosecute those who violated people’s free speech rights under the color of authority. If Biden was complicit in that, he can be impeached.

      But the Constitution was followed, and if the people were fooled in their voting, it’s not the first time, just by a different method.

      That does not make it right to ignore the Constitution.

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      1. RE: “But the Constitution was followed, and…the people were fooled in their voting…”

        That raises the question, Which is more fundamental, Constitutional compliance or the will of the people? Trump apparently believes the will of the people is more fundamental.

        Given that the Constitution needs the will of the people to be enforced, Trump’s observation — while brazen — is a supportable one.

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        1. “Trump apparently believes the will of the people is more fundamental”

          Uh, that is doubtful. He believes he should be President-for-Life. Period. And do not forget the actual “will of the people.” We the people have spoken about Trump. Twice. He lost the popular vote bigly in 2016 and even more bigly in 2020.

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          1. “And the GOP won the popular vote in the recent Senate elections, but that doesn’t change the results.”

            I did not imply that Trump was not elected President. He was. Under the Constitution he now wants to throw out. Because, in 2o2o he lost.

            The popular vote for President is a good proxy for the “will of the people” which was the subject being discussed. The people do not want Trump. We never did.

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          1. “No. the censorship continued long after the election, and in fact had escalated. Democrats still advocate censorship today.”

            Democrats advocate free speech. But we expect people to accept the consequences of what they have to say. Now that Musk has decided to throw open Twitter to liars, Russian bots, racists, antisemites, white supremacists and other deplorables I have not heard one Democrat demand that he be forced to restore the previous moderation efforts that allowed Twitter to grow. What we HAVE done is let advertisers know that supporting such free speech may not be good for business. That is how the market and the marketplace of ideas are supposed to work.

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          2. So, you advocate free speech that you agree with?

            “What we HAVE done is let advertisers know that supporting such free speech may not be good for business. ”

            Yeah, as Twitter’s user base and viewership continue to expand, advertisers might see that differently as their competitors who do advertise there prosper. That is how the marketplace works.

            But you are deceptive in claiming the censorship was aimed at ‘deplorables’ when in fact it was directed at reputable scientists who did not agree with the climate and COVID narrative.

            Statements like “The Jews will not replace us” were suppressed less than “climate is not an emergency.”

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  3. “ If a corrupted democracy elects an illegitimate government…”

    So who determines if the government is illegitimate and the democracy is corrupted? Is it when policies evolve that you don’t like or approve of? Or is it when the president attempts to extort election officials with threats of prosecution if they don’t alter the vote count for him?

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      1. Then what?

        See, I am part of the people and I think that the government has flaws, but certainly not illegitimate or necessarily corrupt. I think our last president was as close to rampant corruption, and had nothing but contempt for our constitution and nation.

        So how do we solve the impasse?

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  4. “Sometimes I am thankful for the Democrats ability to nominate greater evils. There is no other explanation for Trump getting elected the first time.”

    So, the only explanation for Trump getting elected the first (and ONLY time) was because Democrats nominated the evil Hillary Clinton? “I didn’t want to vote for Trump. Democrats made me do it!” Question: if you didn’t want to vote for Trump, why did you nominate him? Did Hillary make you do that too? Oh I do love to watch Trumpers twist themselves into knots trying to justify their gullible, foolish votes.

    “With the Twitter files coming out the total corruption and un-American nature of the Democratic party and its elitist allies in Big Tech and the Deep State was playing out for all to see.”

    First of all those Twitter files that came out are nothing more than Hunter Biden dick pics. Personally, I would have been less offended by dick picks than by a candidate publicly calling on Russia to release hacked emails to help his campaign. I’d rather have a candidate that was helped by the “Deep State” of America than the “Deep State” of Russia.

    “There are no circumstances, not even war, that justify ignoring the Constitution.”

    Surprise! Trump has never given a flip about the Constitution. His goal here is to manipulate his cult into ignoring the Constitution, just like he did on Jan 6. And it’s working… again. Read the comments in this thread if you want proof. e.g. “I think Trump has a point. If a corrupted democracy elects an illegitimate government, no subsequent election can be valid.”

    The election was valid. Every court in the nation has ruled there was no election fraud. The government of the United States is not illegitimate just because Trump lost. But his cult members will forevermore believe it is. Ask yourself who benefits from having citizens of the United States of America believing their government is invalid?

    “Hopefully, he has made himself so unelectable that the GOP will turn away.”

    The sane part of the GOP has already turned away. Unfortunately, Lee Atwater’s “southern strategy” brought in enough insane members, they have become the base and now have the power to order around what little is left of the sanity caucus.

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    1. RE: “First of all those Twitter files that came out are nothing more than Hunter Biden dick pics.”

      False. Twitter’s censorship in the Biden laptop case began with suppressing the New York Post’s article breaking the story.

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      1. Excuse me? You are saying the NEW YORK POST ran a story that Twitter didn’t pick up? And that’s your big “censorship” argument as to why Trump didn’t win?? Well hell yes! Let’s throw out the election and burn the Constitution and make Trump President for life!

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        1. Twitter is a piece of a larger conspiracy. Former intelligence officials with no direct knowledge told the people the laptop was fake. The FBI knew better and hid that from the people.

          It worked.

          But you should be very upset that it did if you are an honest person.

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          1. “Former intelligence officials with no direct knowledge told the people the laptop was fake. The FBI knew better and hid that from the people.”

            If the FBI knew better, why haven’t they produced the laptop? Why haven’t they come forward and told people exactly what was on the laptop? Why, during 4 years of Trump and the Republican Party being in charge of everything, didn’t they release the damning evidence?

            I think Elon just answered that question. The only damning evidence anyone had was some Hunter Biden dick pics. And they may or may not have come from the laptop in question… assuming that laptop ever existed.

            Those “former intelligence officials” probably told people the laptop was fake because it was fake. The whole story has all the credibility of a QAnon bumpersticker.

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          2. Trump was never in charge of the FBI

            “The 7th floor of the Hoover Building looks at this President as the Enemy.” Sebastian Gorka, who was there.

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          3. According to Wikipedia, “President Trump formally dismissed Comey on May 9, 2017, less than 4 years into his 10-year term as Director of the FBI.” That sounds like Trump had some influence over the FBI to me.

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          4. On June 7, 2017, Trump announced his intention to nominate Christopher Wray to be the next Director of the FBI. Yet Wray never produced a laptop or any evidence that such a laptop ever existed. In four years, with full firing and hiring power over the FBI, Trump never produced a laptop. Either there was no laptop or Trump was a weak, incompetent President. Or both.

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          5. Conspiracies have an answer for every fact that doesn’t conform to the conspiracy.

            Are you suggesting that Trump, the same man who overtly threatened Raffensberger and his attorney to rig the election results while knowingly being recorded could not tell Barr to make that laptop front and center immediately?

            The bully pulpit along with the right wing MSM with its bigger audiences, could not push the laptop to the top of the news no matter what social media allowed?

            There were at least a half dozen other social media sites like Parler or Gettr. What were they doing?

            Voters that gets their news from Twitter, FB and their spawn is a problem IMO.

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          6. Actually, with censorship removed, Twitter can be the check and balance on the MSM by not allowing them to ignore counter narrative issues to death.

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          7. Can be? Doesn’t mean it wants to be or should be or be forced to do so.

            There are so many outlets for information, lies, truths, and dinner menus that complaining because not all want to go that route all the time is sour grapes.

            Ask yourself why Twitter was so successful for so long compared to other likeminded sites. Now that medium may be dying as our national attention span shifts to other means.

            Most of what the last president posted on Twitter was likened to a five year old who pooped on the living room floor during his parent’s cocktail party.

            Attention with outrage sells eyeballs on ads…to a limit. Twitter set its limit and the right is upset at losing a respectable forum for disrespectful posts. And evidently they are not able to compete with its own sites.

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          8. One of the MSM’s ways of censoring the marketplace of ideas is to simply ignore events that don’t fit the narrative. They don’t have to lie, just selectively report.

            Twitter made that harder,

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          9. “One of the MSM’s ways of censoring the marketplace of ideas is to simply ignore events that don’t fit the narrative. They don’t have to lie, just selectively report.”

            Have you forgotten that MSM includes a wide variety of players including people such as FOX, WSJ, National Review, the Sinclair Broadcast Group, etc.?

            Your complaint seems to be with our LEADING journalistic organizations. WAPO, NYT, PBS, etc. And yes, there is a bias at play. To earn a place on, say, WAPO, you have to be highly intelligent and highly educated. Such intelligent and educated people are not so easily fooled by “alternative facts” and, therefore do not report them to the extent you would like. Too bad. But that IS the marketplace of ideas.

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          10. “So, the left wing media is just smarter because they agree with you?”
            Uh, I know it stings but reality has a liberal bias. Always has.

            “Your smarter WAPO seems to miss a lot of things the New York Post finds.”
            I see no evidence of that. I think it is more accurate to say they emphasize different things.

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          11. You keep saying that, but I don’t see where the left is often vindicated by experience. All of their climate predictions have failed. Thier economic policy is a trainwreck and social programs are the main cause of crime and hardship for the poor.

            Which reality are you speaking of?

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          12. Ok. tell me the AGW climate predictions that experience has proven true,

            Temperatures have risen only 1/3 of what was predicted over the last 35 years.

            Sea ice was supposed to be gone from the arctic 15 years ago.

            There are 5 times as many polar bears now as when Al Gore told us they would be extinct.

            Leaving climate, how about that brief and mild inflation?

            How about wiping out the virus?

            I could go on but you haven’t shown me a correct prediction yet.

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          13. “I could go on but you haven’t shown me a correct prediction yet.”

            You are now just flailing. Sure you can find some prediction that someone made that was wrong. That does not refute the simple truth . . . “conservative” politics are grounded in “alternative facts” which constantly puts their ideas in constant conflict with reality. Reality has a liberal bias.

            For example, take the reality of Donald Trump versus the “conservative” construct of the man. Reality – known by progressives from the beginning – is now destroying the “construct.” It has only taken you people six years.

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          14. Liberal politics based on false climate models are destroying the world economy and you think I am flailing?

            Clinging to false scenarios long after we know them to be false because there is a political constituency that has grown dependent on them is irrational and destructive.

            And you claim some relationship between liberalism and reality? There is no connection.

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          15. “Liberal politics based on false climate models are destroying the world economy ”

            Utter nonsense.
            Once again we see that reality has a liberal bias.

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          16. “Because you say so?”

            Uh, because it is not true. The world economy is NOT being destroyed by climate change mitigation efforts around the world. “Destroying” is a very strong word. Maybe you should learn its meaning before using it in your next nonsense claim.

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          17. Well, it is true that it is not destroying China’s economy. Their former one child policy is doing that.

            But Europe and the US are in deep trouble over climate foolishness.

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          18. “But Europe and the US are in deep trouble over climate foolishness.”

            No we are not. Even with the disruptions of war and pandemic we are at near full employment, inflation is easing, and are again approaching $3.00 gasoline.

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          19. Full employment with a rapidly declining standard of living is not a triumph.

            The strategic petroleum reserve will not last forever, and we are having to make nice with Maduro because Biden is determined to destroy American energy production.

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          20. “Full employment with a rapidly declining standard of living is not a triumph.”

            The concentration of wealth in too few hands is not a product of energy policy. It is the work of the Reagan Revolution and the GOP.

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          21. Concentration of wealth is not the problem. The problem is devaluation of the currency resulting in a lower standard of living, plus higher actual costs for both business and individuals resulting from mandated use of less efficient forms of energy.

            These are entirely self inflicted wounds to the middle class and working poor.

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          22. Sigh

            Because you say so?

            How is concentration of wealth the problem when the purchasing power of income is diluted by inflation and unnecessarily high energy costs?

            The price of hamburger has little effect on those who eat steak, but it is very important to working class consumers.

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          23. “Sigh
            Because you say so?”

            Sigh
            Because you say it is not?

            The value of the currency is not the problem. Whether inflation is low, high or non-existent, the problem is how the fruits of labor are divvied up.

            If our system were not loaded against ordinary working people then wages would be higher and Jeff Bezos would have a few less billion to play with. If wages were in better sync with the value produced by working people then the general standard of living would be better.

            Beginning with the Reagan Revolution the economic system HAS been loaded against ordinary working people. Union busting. Stagnant minimum wages. Minimal employee protections. Even today people working on the railroad cannot even get a few days of paid sick leave.

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          24. Ah, the usual Marxist claptrap

            The point is that prior to COVID and this inflation, median wages were growing faster than inflation for the first time in decades. Your wealth envy blinds you to everything else.

            Inflation is the cruelest tax as it falls most heavily on those at the margin.

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          25. “Ah, the usual Marxist claptrap”

            Which happens to be the truth. Labelling it as “claptrap” is not much of a rebuttal.

            And, in any case, you have failed to tie ANY economic problems to environmental policy which is the essence of your current rant.

            The recent inflation – now easing – is well understood to be the result of many factors none of which has anything substantial to do with environmental policy.

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          26. Sure, $5 diesel has no effect on food prices.

            Higher energy prices are embedded in the price of everything we buy, in addition to the higher energy prices we pay directly.

            And what is the value of the manufacturing jobs driven overseas to countries that don’t follow our silly rules?

            We are fortunate to have Europe as a canary. They are facing a really bad winter.

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          27. “Sure, $5 diesel has no effect on food prices.”

            You are confused and seem to be unable to make a coherent argument.

            Of course a higher price of any input affects food prices but we are discussing the falling standard of living and that did not start last week, last month or last year. Environmental policy has little to do with diesel going up while gasoline comes down.

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          28. Coherent argument? You think the government playing Robin Hood makes sense?

            The median income for a household in the US was gaining ground, but it cannot keep up with 8% inflation.

            Even were there not a petroleum shortage, the reckless expansion of the money supply for deficit spending for the Climate subsidies and mandates would be driving prices up as well, The money is being devalued by reckless spending.

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          29. Actually, with censorship removed, all we’d have would be dick pics and hate speech. If you don’t want your kid to pick up the morning paper and see it on the front page, don’t expect them to miss seeing it on uncensored social media.

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          30. But those appointees had power over civil service employees. If there had been ANYTHING there, Trump’s appointees could have found it. They found nothing. Because there was nothing to find.

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      2. No one cares about Hunter’s dick. What matters is the potential compromise of the sitting President and the collusion between the Biden campaign, the DNC, and the Deep State to defraud the American people in the lead up to the last 2 elections.

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    2. Read more carefully.

      I opposed Trump’s nomination. But then Hillary was the only option. And that would be worse.

      I didn’t say the election was fraudulent, I said the voters were defrauded. Recent polls tell us that 17% of Bidens voters would have changed their votes had they known the laptop was not Russian disinformation and what was in it.

      The DNC, FBI and Big Tech conspired to mislead the American people in the weeks before the election.

      And that in itself is a greater evil than Trump.

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      1. Hillary would have been worse? How? How in the name of all that’s holy could anyone have been worse than Trump? Did Hillary mock a disabled man? Grab anyone by the pussy? Bribe a porn star to keep quiet? Cheat on her taxes? File multiple bankruptcies? Did Chelsea brag about getting all the money she needed from Russia? The list goes on.

        If you couldn’t bring yourself to vote for Hillary, you could have written in anyone else. But you didn’t did you? You voted for Trump and you have defended Trump through impeachment for extortion of a foreign country for personal gain. You defended Trump through an insurrection. Actually, I’m surprised you are finally offended that he wants to burn the Constitution because that’s what he has been doing every step of his political career.

        So “voters were defrauded?” Boo f’ing hoo! You mean like the time James Comey announced he was opening an investigation into Hillary’s email a week before the election. Only the “investigation” turned out to be nothing more than a repeat of the investigation he had already done… which turned up NOTHING? You mean like that kind of defrauding? Or do you mean like the defrauding of claiming to have a laptop with “damning evidence” which you claim to have in your possession… but you never release, not even after being in charge of the DOJ for four years? Is that the kind of “voter defrauding” you’re talking about?

        I don’t know who took that poll but I know a lot of Biden voters and I don’t know a single one that would have voted for Trump even it that laptop fable had been true.

        If defrauding voters is evil, Trump has done more of it than anyone on the planet.

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          1. So you’d vote for a man who says it’s okay with him if the Constitution is terminated? You do realize the Second Amendment is part of the Constitution, right?

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          2. Trump says a lot of stupid things, but he doesn’t actually do them. Of course, the President saying stupid things alone can do harm and lead others to actually do stupid things. but even so, Trump never actually did anything so bad as Biden’s climate policy and spending, nor did he bring us to the edge on nuclear war.

            So, as bad as he is, he remains the lesser evil.

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          3. Bring us to the edge of nuclear war?

            That was Putin. His saber rattling was the result of a botched war to bring Europe closer to his borders and expand Russia.

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          4. “Sure, because us arming a neighbor was no provocation.”

            Good grief. Whose side are you on? The actual provocation was the murderous fascist thug Putin dispatching his military and his mercenaries to grab parts of neighboring countries.

            Our response to the military annexations in Georgia were mild. Did that buy us “peace for our time?” I don’t think so. Our response to the military annexation of Crimea as mild. Did THAT buy us “peace for our time?” Again, obviously not. Now you are saying “Let Putin have Ukraine” and you seem to think that, finally, that will buy us “peace for our time.” You are who they were talking about when they said that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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          5. “As I have said repeatedly there are no good guys, and it is none of our business.”

            Yes, those are your opinions.

            No good guys : Most decent people disagree with your equating Russia – the fascist aggressor with Ukraine – the democratic country defending itself.

            None of our business : history says you are wrong. Fascist aggression unopposed eventually threatens everybody.

            But whatever your opinions, you do not get your own facts. In this case it is the actions of Russia under Putin that has caused the UNPROVOKED war.

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          6. Attacking a neighbor just might be considered a provocation. And if the other neighbors are concerned that they might be next after Ukraine falls, help is warranted.

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          7. It looks the same from the other direction.

            We gave Russia assurances that NATO would not expand beyond Poland, and we then started prepping Ukraine for NATO.

            How could Russia not see that as provocation?

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          8. When Trump says something stupid you’d better take him at his word. When he said he “moved on her like a bitch” you can believe he tried to get there but couldn’t. When he said he wanted to “find 11,780 votes,” you can believe he would have done it if he could. When he said he wants to terminate the Constitution, you’d better not give him the opportunity to try.

            Personally, I think promoting insurrection has done more damage to our country than any climate policy.

            Spending was necessary for many reasons, one of which was to get the economy out of the tailspin brought on by the pandemic. At this point, it seems to be working. Obama pulled the country out of Bush’s economic disaster and Biden has pulled the country out of Trump’s economic disaster.

            As for being on the edge of nuclear war, that is totally Putin’s doing. Putin was counting on his puppet being in place when he made his move on a sovereign country that borders NATO. Unfortunately for him all of his horses and all of his men couldn’t put Trumpty back in office again. Putin’s second mistake was believing he had weakened the US and NATO enough that he could march into Ukraine and take what he wanted anyway. He was wrong again.

            There’s no way Trumpty is the lesser of any evil.

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          9. Here is the poll, the questions and the methodology:

            Click to access TPC-MRC+Biden+Voter+Messaging+Survey+Analysis+Nov+2020_final.pdf

            One of the questions asked:

            “At the time you cast your vote for president, were you aware that Joe Biden chose as his running mate and successor Kamala Harris, rated the most left wing Senator in America, even more leftist that Bernie Sanders, a self-described socialist?”

            Isn’t that an egregious example of push polling?

            I think so. Other questions also presume a “fact”, use it and ask for agreement.

            IMO the poll is at best fake, at worst, egregiously so.

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          10. Thanks for doing that research, Len. I thought about doing it but I figured it would be a wasted effort. Anybody gullible enough to believe Trump’s BS isn’t capable of understanding how a pollster can manipulate questions to get the desired answers. This particular poll has all the subtleties of a hooker on crack.

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          11. Funny, the site puts on a great show with graphs. But then you read the questions and it is almost “do you still beat your mother for beer money?”.

            No wonder conspiracies thrive. There are professionals who know how many folks roll, and the know exactly how to ,give the push.

            The more believers, the more heady the feeling of power. The rally master knew this and tailored his rhetoric to solidify the lies.

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          12. “But those assurances were given, and it’s in a source you will no doubt trust”

            I will ignore your ignorant insult and simply say that I do not believe that “Marxism-Lenism Today” is a trustworthy source. I will add that agreements between nations are documented in formal letters of understanding and are not based on cocktail banter.

            The looming expansion of NATO to include Sweden, Finland and Ukraine would not be happening if it were not for Russian aggression.

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          13. “ The former idea about “closer to the Soviet borders” is written down not in treaties but in multiple memoranda of conversation between the Soviets and the highest-level Western interlocutors (Genscher, Kohl, Baker, Gates, Bush, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Major, Woerner, and others) offering assurances throughout 1990 and into 1991 about protecting Soviet security interests and including the USSR in new European security structures.”

            The big debate was about East Germany, which would put NATO closer to Russia. But negotiations never bore fruit for a variety of reasons.

            So discussions were held and assurances were offered, but obviously rejected since nothing was written into a formal treaty.

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