As we have suspected for 2 years, Twitter, at the direction of the Biden campaign, suppressed and marked inaccurate stories about the contents of Hunter’s laptop, as well as other stories critical of Biden and continued to suppress conservative writers after Biden was in office.
I am a former Chairman of the Tidewater Libertarian Party and was the 2007 LP candidate for the 14th district VA Senate. Previously, I was the Volunteer State Director for the FairTax. I am married 50 years with two grown children and 5 grandchildren.
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According to the reporting . . . “Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored”
but the reporting continues, the Biden campaign was more effective thant the President of the United States in working these “tools.” Now is that because Trump was incompetent or that Twitter was corrupt or is it that right-wing flame throwers and Russian agents provided the Democrats a lot more material to object to?
Bottom line, you are still trying to make a mountain out of the molehill that is Hunter’s laptop. Your hair seems to be on fire. Again. Maybe stick your head in a bucket of cold reality.
As an aside, maybe if the Republicans had not sat on this nothingburger of a laptop for months in order to make it into an October surprise, the story might have had more legs with the serious journalists of the world. But, here we are now still waiting after almost three years of it being in the hands of GOP operatives for ANY actual evidence of ANY crime by President Biden that lies hidden in it. Oh, wait. Sometime after he left office, someone referred to him as “the Big Guy.” Oh my!
HAd you read the article carefully, you would have seen that the “tools” were available to Twitter staff but their use was based on personal “contacts” and that the vast majority of twitter personal with access were Democrats.
As a result, the access to tools to delete unflattering tweets was far more availble to Democrats.
“Twitter staff but their use was based on personal “contacts” and that the vast majority of twitter personal with access were Democrats.”
Yes, I saw that. So what? I paraphrased that reporting in my post. That is how the world works – it is not what you know, it is who you know.
So, we have agents of Biden campaign objecting to tweets and we have agents of the government objecting to tweets. Only the agents of the government are violating the Constitution (“And when done at the direction of government, a violation of the Constitution”) and the government was headed by Donald Trump.
“And we know that the Deep State operatives in the DOJ were undermining Trump the entire time he was in office as continue to do so.”
We know no such thing. When are you people going to grow up and learn to live in the real world?
Your Dear Leader has shown his true colors yet again, but you remain loyal. Sad.
“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the
RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution” – D. Trump
Yeah, let’s suspend the Constitution and put Donald Trump back in White House because Twitter would not help with his October surprise.
For the umpteenth time, I don’t support Trump other than as a lesser evil. I don’t want him to get the nomination, didn’t want it last time. But that is irrelevant.
The problem is government exercising censorship powers through a proxy. That is a problem whether it is bureaucrats acting independently, the administration, or the party of the President in power.
“Once a government commits to the principle of silencing opposition, it has only one way to go, and that’s down the path of increasingly repressive measures until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens” – Harry Truman
“For the umpteenth time, I don’t support Trump other than as a lesser evil.”
Laughable distinction without a difference. You carry water for him and his lies on every subject. That is close enough to “support” in my book.
This whole thread is just another example. You jump on a bogus story, don’t do a lick of fact checking, and declare another phony Biden/Deep State scandal to be real. So much corruption! So much crime! So many violations of the Constitution! Only Trump himself does it better.
WHat lies and distortions were posted here. If there are so many that you could not support, but attempt to cover his ass for, there has to be something there.
“When you post lies and distortions about Trump, I will expose them . . .”
Uh, your labelling widely reported, fully documented, and usually obvious truths about Donald Trump’s lies, corruption, incompetence, and crimes as “lies and distortions” just confirms again what a diehard supporter of Donald Trump you are.
“You have become so partisan you can no longer distinguish between tribe and principle”
Now, you are just projecting. Your rabid and frequently expressed hatred of President Obama, President Biden, and Democrats in general is beyond “partisan” and into the pathological. Hatred is not a “principle” so quit deluding yourself.
And then there is your partisan and absurd blindness to Trump’s many crimes. Too many to count but, for example, your unwillingness to accept the criminal nature of Trump’s attempted extortion of Ukraine to produce dirt on candidate Biden. There is not a shred of reasonable doubt. We heard him doing it. And yet, you laughably put it down to Trump fighting corruption.
“And we know that the Deep State operatives in the DOJ were undermining Trump the entire time he was in office as continue to do so.”
We know nothing of the sort. 3 investigations authorized by the Trump administration, Mueller, IG and Durham, came up with virtually zero evidence except for a couple of FBI agents out of 85,000 who did not like Trump.
Trump has said he wants to scrap the Constitution because it did not allow the Big Lie to succeed in overturning a valid election. There is your threat by a wannabe Dictator with his “standby gangs” whom you have shown apparent approval of. He has shown nothing but contempt for the office, our laws, the Constitution and our nation.
As Cronkite used to sign off with, “and that’s the way it is, this day…”
Upon quick review (Norton kept warning me about PM site, BTW) I see a rehash of what we already knew. The debate inside Twitter about whether hacked information should be given a free platform or not.
Don’t worry, Jordan and his boys will spend the next 6 years investigating the prodigal son as we move on.
Pretty good jobs report I understand. That’s got to be pissing off the right wing caucus.
This story isn’t about Hunter Biden’s laptop. It is about the way in which Twitter handled the story about the laptop. Clearly, Twitter committed free speech malpractice.
Biased moderation
Terms of service violations
Suppression of legitimate speech
This scandal will probably grow as Taibbi releases more of the material he has received.
Clearly you have no understanding of the concept of free speech. Twitter is under no obligation of any kind to be “fair and balanced.” It is not the government. They can do what they want. It is called freedom.
“Scandal?”
Always looking for another scandal. Why are you trying so hard? Dear Leader provides real scandals every week.
Do we ever see, say, Dan Rather or Rachel Maddow on NRO? I don’t think so. Is that another example of “free speech malpractice?” Or, a better example, do they allow dick pics of Donald Trump on Fox News? More “free speech malpractice?”
Are you and Tabor too dumb to know when you have been had? Here you are with your hair on fire about biased censorship by Twitter when it turns out you have once again eagerly consumed dishonest spin from the nether regions of the internet. Another delicious nothingburger. Twitter blocked Hunter Biden-related content that would be grossly offensive ANYWHERE. Try to get over it.
RE: “Twitter blocked Hunter Biden-related content that would be grossly offensive ANYWHERE. Try to get over it.”
Wrong. Twitter blocked the NY Post from using its own Twitter account to share the laptop story it published in hard copy. Twitter also blocked other users from linking to the web version of that same story.
Unless you wish to accuse the NY Post of publishing pornography, your commentary is without merit, irrelevant and foolish.
You are getting two separate stories confused. There is the story of the NY Post laptop story being blocked and the story of Biden seeking to stop certain postings.
The New York Post story was blocked for legitimate reasons – the very odd provenance of the laptop. This was the direct result of the Republicans sitting on the laptop for many months and trying to spring it as an October surprise.
The second story about Twitter acting on Biden requests tries to mask the nature of the material being blocked. It was offensive material by any standard. In other words, it is a non-story and just another part of the desperate attempt to find a scandal where there is not one.
Because of Section 230 and its application, government has coercive power over platforms.
For government to press private companies to do its bidding to censor speech is not a crime for the platform, but it most certainly is for the government entities involved.
“For government to press private companies to do its bidding to censor speech is not a crime for the platform, but it most certainly is for the government entities involved.”
Again and again you seem to forget that these events happened in October 2020. The government was headed by Donald Trump and according to the story he, too, was seeking to censor tweets. The obvious inference – Biden was acting legally. Trump was acting illegally.
The government directed NOTHING. There is no proof in any of your posts or links that says it did. And even thought Mr. Trump was the “head of the government”, you still believe that the government was responsible for what a PRIVATE company chose to do.
Ron DeSantis did worse to Disney and you cheered it.
I invite you to review Charlie Sykes newsletter that I shared earlier and within it, find Cathy Young’s comments on the “Twitter-gaet” story.
“The offending material that Taibbi revealed was removed by Twitter at the Biden campaign’s request turns out to have been a bunch of links to Hunter Biden in the buff.
There was a tweet from a Chinese account featuring a naked woman on top of Hunter Biden, as well as a family photo. Two pictures of Hunter Biden’s penis, one with another woman in the background. Taibbi’s next list of material was removed by Twitter after being flagged by the Democratic National Committee. They include a picture of Hunter Biden smoking crack and getting his feet rubbed and a link to a Hunter Biden sex tape.
And that’s the big hubbub. Social media company removes unwanted dick pics: News at 11.”
According to the article, I do not have a Constitutional right to see Hunter Biden dick pics. Nor do I want one. Apparently, you do.
Here’s another link you might enjoy. The poster’s name is Anne Laurie. She’s one of the “Balloon Juice jackals” I follow using Feedly. The post is kinda long but it starts off with mocking Musk for banning Ye for tweeting a swastika and, at the same time, reinstating the account of Andrew Anglin, world’s second most famous Nazi, and goes on to end with a fake news tweet about Elon having died when his car exploded, “not sure if it was foul play or a normal tesla detonation.” https://balloon-juice.com/2022/12/03/late-friday-night-open-thread-a-fittingly-mucky-ending-to-a-gruelingly-messy-week/
According to the reporting . . . “Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored”
but the reporting continues, the Biden campaign was more effective thant the President of the United States in working these “tools.” Now is that because Trump was incompetent or that Twitter was corrupt or is it that right-wing flame throwers and Russian agents provided the Democrats a lot more material to object to?
Bottom line, you are still trying to make a mountain out of the molehill that is Hunter’s laptop. Your hair seems to be on fire. Again. Maybe stick your head in a bucket of cold reality.
As an aside, maybe if the Republicans had not sat on this nothingburger of a laptop for months in order to make it into an October surprise, the story might have had more legs with the serious journalists of the world. But, here we are now still waiting after almost three years of it being in the hands of GOP operatives for ANY actual evidence of ANY crime by President Biden that lies hidden in it. Oh, wait. Sometime after he left office, someone referred to him as “the Big Guy.” Oh my!
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HAd you read the article carefully, you would have seen that the “tools” were available to Twitter staff but their use was based on personal “contacts” and that the vast majority of twitter personal with access were Democrats.
As a result, the access to tools to delete unflattering tweets was far more availble to Democrats.
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“Twitter staff but their use was based on personal “contacts” and that the vast majority of twitter personal with access were Democrats.”
Yes, I saw that. So what? I paraphrased that reporting in my post. That is how the world works – it is not what you know, it is who you know.
So, we have agents of Biden campaign objecting to tweets and we have agents of the government objecting to tweets. Only the agents of the government are violating the Constitution (“And when done at the direction of government, a violation of the Constitution”) and the government was headed by Donald Trump.
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And we know that the Deep State operatives in the DOJ were undermining Trump the entire time he was in office as continue to do so.
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“And we know that the Deep State operatives in the DOJ were undermining Trump the entire time he was in office as continue to do so.”
We know no such thing. When are you people going to grow up and learn to live in the real world?
Your Dear Leader has shown his true colors yet again, but you remain loyal. Sad.
“Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the
RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution” – D. Trump
Yeah, let’s suspend the Constitution and put Donald Trump back in White House because Twitter would not help with his October surprise.
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For the umpteenth time, I don’t support Trump other than as a lesser evil. I don’t want him to get the nomination, didn’t want it last time. But that is irrelevant.
The problem is government exercising censorship powers through a proxy. That is a problem whether it is bureaucrats acting independently, the administration, or the party of the President in power.
“Once a government commits to the principle of silencing opposition, it has only one way to go, and that’s down the path of increasingly repressive measures until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens” – Harry Truman
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“For the umpteenth time, I don’t support Trump other than as a lesser evil.”
Laughable distinction without a difference. You carry water for him and his lies on every subject. That is close enough to “support” in my book.
This whole thread is just another example. You jump on a bogus story, don’t do a lick of fact checking, and declare another phony Biden/Deep State scandal to be real. So much corruption! So much crime! So many violations of the Constitution! Only Trump himself does it better.
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When you post lies and distortions about Trump, I will expose them,
That is not support for Trump. Indeed, letting them stand is support for Biden.
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WHat lies and distortions were posted here. If there are so many that you could not support, but attempt to cover his ass for, there has to be something there.
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“When you post lies and distortions about Trump, I will expose them . . .”
Uh, your labelling widely reported, fully documented, and usually obvious truths about Donald Trump’s lies, corruption, incompetence, and crimes as “lies and distortions” just confirms again what a diehard supporter of Donald Trump you are.
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You have become so partisan you can no longer distinguish between tribe and principle.
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“You have become so partisan you can no longer distinguish between tribe and principle”
Now, you are just projecting. Your rabid and frequently expressed hatred of President Obama, President Biden, and Democrats in general is beyond “partisan” and into the pathological. Hatred is not a “principle” so quit deluding yourself.
And then there is your partisan and absurd blindness to Trump’s many crimes. Too many to count but, for example, your unwillingness to accept the criminal nature of Trump’s attempted extortion of Ukraine to produce dirt on candidate Biden. There is not a shred of reasonable doubt. We heard him doing it. And yet, you laughably put it down to Trump fighting corruption.
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Pot. meet kettle.
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You support Trump because there is no one in your mind strong enough to support elsewhere. You fear him as much as the GOP.
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“And we know that the Deep State operatives in the DOJ were undermining Trump the entire time he was in office as continue to do so.”
We know nothing of the sort. 3 investigations authorized by the Trump administration, Mueller, IG and Durham, came up with virtually zero evidence except for a couple of FBI agents out of 85,000 who did not like Trump.
Trump has said he wants to scrap the Constitution because it did not allow the Big Lie to succeed in overturning a valid election. There is your threat by a wannabe Dictator with his “standby gangs” whom you have shown apparent approval of. He has shown nothing but contempt for the office, our laws, the Constitution and our nation.
As Cronkite used to sign off with, “and that’s the way it is, this day…”
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Upon quick review (Norton kept warning me about PM site, BTW) I see a rehash of what we already knew. The debate inside Twitter about whether hacked information should be given a free platform or not.
Don’t worry, Jordan and his boys will spend the next 6 years investigating the prodigal son as we move on.
Pretty good jobs report I understand. That’s got to be pissing off the right wing caucus.
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And had you read carefully, Twitter’s policy was to ban “hacked” material when it was labeled such by law enforcement. That rule was bypassed.
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This story isn’t about Hunter Biden’s laptop. It is about the way in which Twitter handled the story about the laptop. Clearly, Twitter committed free speech malpractice.
This scandal will probably grow as Taibbi releases more of the material he has received.
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“Clearly, Twitter committed free speech malpractice.”
Clearly you have no understanding of the concept of free speech. Twitter is under no obligation of any kind to be “fair and balanced.” It is not the government. They can do what they want. It is called freedom.
“Scandal?”
Always looking for another scandal. Why are you trying so hard? Dear Leader provides real scandals every week.
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Twitter being biased is legal, if offensive to ethical commentators.
But government DIRECTING twitter to censor is unConstitutional
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RE: “It is not the government. They can do what they want. It is called freedom.”
So, Twitter used its freedom to suppress the free speech of its users. That’s a good example of free speech malpractice.
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Do we ever see, say, Dan Rather or Rachel Maddow on NRO? I don’t think so. Is that another example of “free speech malpractice?” Or, a better example, do they allow dick pics of Donald Trump on Fox News? More “free speech malpractice?”
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The MSM outlets you mention don’t publish audience-created content. Hence, your analogy is without merit.
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“. . . analogy is without merit”
Oh, it has some merit. Very few, if any, public forums would tolerate the abuses of free speech that were blocked by Twitter.
But, my oh my, do you people love to play the victim. You want your Hunter Biden dick pics and you want them now!
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First you offer commentary without merit, then commentary that has no relevance.
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No relevance?
Are you and Tabor too dumb to know when you have been had? Here you are with your hair on fire about biased censorship by Twitter when it turns out you have once again eagerly consumed dishonest spin from the nether regions of the internet. Another delicious nothingburger. Twitter blocked Hunter Biden-related content that would be grossly offensive ANYWHERE. Try to get over it.
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Offensive like 10% for the big guy?
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RE: “Twitter blocked Hunter Biden-related content that would be grossly offensive ANYWHERE. Try to get over it.”
Wrong. Twitter blocked the NY Post from using its own Twitter account to share the laptop story it published in hard copy. Twitter also blocked other users from linking to the web version of that same story.
Unless you wish to accuse the NY Post of publishing pornography, your commentary is without merit, irrelevant and foolish.
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And they aren’t covered by section 230 either.
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You are getting two separate stories confused. There is the story of the NY Post laptop story being blocked and the story of Biden seeking to stop certain postings.
The New York Post story was blocked for legitimate reasons – the very odd provenance of the laptop. This was the direct result of the Republicans sitting on the laptop for many months and trying to spring it as an October surprise.
The second story about Twitter acting on Biden requests tries to mask the nature of the material being blocked. It was offensive material by any standard. In other words, it is a non-story and just another part of the desperate attempt to find a scandal where there is not one.
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“The MSM outlets you mention don’t publish audience-created content.”
On reflection, I did not realize that the NY Post is “audience-created”.
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Because of Section 230 and its application, government has coercive power over platforms.
For government to press private companies to do its bidding to censor speech is not a crime for the platform, but it most certainly is for the government entities involved.
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“For government to press private companies to do its bidding to censor speech is not a crime for the platform, but it most certainly is for the government entities involved.”
Again and again you seem to forget that these events happened in October 2020. The government was headed by Donald Trump and according to the story he, too, was seeking to censor tweets. The obvious inference – Biden was acting legally. Trump was acting illegally.
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And when done at the direction of government, a violation of the Constitution.
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The government directed NOTHING. There is no proof in any of your posts or links that says it did. And even thought Mr. Trump was the “head of the government”, you still believe that the government was responsible for what a PRIVATE company chose to do.
Ron DeSantis did worse to Disney and you cheered it.
I invite you to review Charlie Sykes newsletter that I shared earlier and within it, find Cathy Young’s comments on the “Twitter-gaet” story.
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Here’s another version of the story:
https://feedly.com/i/entry/h/tl4fcSNSb3K0BG4s9iF8/dSTtMsjz29EDzSDYFYNE=_184d727860f:5e78a4d:87d49c59
“The offending material that Taibbi revealed was removed by Twitter at the Biden campaign’s request turns out to have been a bunch of links to Hunter Biden in the buff.
There was a tweet from a Chinese account featuring a naked woman on top of Hunter Biden, as well as a family photo. Two pictures of Hunter Biden’s penis, one with another woman in the background. Taibbi’s next list of material was removed by Twitter after being flagged by the Democratic National Committee. They include a picture of Hunter Biden smoking crack and getting his feet rubbed and a link to a Hunter Biden sex tape.
And that’s the big hubbub. Social media company removes unwanted dick pics: News at 11.”
According to the article, I do not have a Constitutional right to see Hunter Biden dick pics. Nor do I want one. Apparently, you do.
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Lois, this is becoming a habit with you – making other posters here look like real jackasses for their eager gullibility and lazy research.
Keep up the good work! 😉
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I just noticed, that is a Feedly link. I’m not sure everybody can use it. Here’s a link to the article itself: https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitutional-right-to-post-hunter-bidens-dick-pic-on-twitter/
Here’s another link you might enjoy. The poster’s name is Anne Laurie. She’s one of the “Balloon Juice jackals” I follow using Feedly. The post is kinda long but it starts off with mocking Musk for banning Ye for tweeting a swastika and, at the same time, reinstating the account of Andrew Anglin, world’s second most famous Nazi, and goes on to end with a fake news tweet about Elon having died when his car exploded, “not sure if it was foul play or a normal tesla detonation.”
https://balloon-juice.com/2022/12/03/late-friday-night-open-thread-a-fittingly-mucky-ending-to-a-gruelingly-messy-week/
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The Bulwark is just another anti Roberts site. And I love it!
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