FOX Framework for firearms legislation
If Democrats don’t sabotage it in the details, a compromise might happen.
The Elements are:
Increased mental health services for young people.
Improvements in school security
Enhanced penalties and enforcement on straw purchases.
Incentives for State Red Flag laws.
Including Juvenile records in NICS scans for those between 18 and 21.
In general, these aren’t bad.
Absent better due process, Red Flag laws will probably fail in the courts, but done right they could be good.
Enforcement of straw purchase laws has been a joke, so if they are going to get serious, great.
But best of all, including juvenile records in NICS scans is long overdue.
There is still a lot that could happen that could screw this up, but these changes could do a lot of good without adversely affecting our rights too badly.
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RE: “There is still a lot that could happen that could screw this up, but these changes could do a lot of good without adversely affecting our rights too badly.”
No thanks. I appreciate the good intentions, but I oppose in principle the federal legislation because it is federal. Let the states improve mental health services and public school security on their own.
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Ideally, yes, but considering all the pressure to do really bad things just to be “doing something” this appears to be reasonable.
Adding juvenile records to NICS database is long overdue anyway.
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We’ve had school shootings for decades, with a real upturn in the last 10. States still haven’t done much. (For that matter, we haven’t done anything except “thoughts, prayers and sell more guns” as sellers take advantage of gun control fears.)
It needs to be a national effort since guns and shooters are not bound by state lines.
Like a house with a roof that leaks in 50 places, a new roof is preferable to 50 buckets.
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IMO the enhanced enforcement on straw purchases is a good thing, though more applicable to crime than school shootings.
But most of all, applying juvenile records to the NICS database is the big thing. Consider how many of these mass shooters have been between 18 and 21 and we learn only later that they were “known to police” like the Uvalde shooter and the Buffalo and Parkland shooters as well. Many of these would have been disqualified had their juvenile records been checked.
The Uvalde shooter, for example, had only been 18 a couple of weeks, and because of the way juvenile records are hidden, had a clean slate.
Now we need an exemption on HIPPA to allow mental health professionals to report people who pose a generalized rather than specific threat of violence.
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RE: “Like a house with a roof that leaks in 50 places, a new roof is preferable to 50 buckets.”
A creative analogy, but I don’t agree that we have a roof that leaks in 50 places.
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And we benefit from fifty different roofers seeking the best way to patch the leaks, and sharing information on what method works best at the lowest cost.
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Like a Band-Aid on a cancer, better than nothing. But not nearly enough. The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he does not have a gun. The House approach is far closer to what is needed.
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Predictable. and House Democrats trying to tack on gun bans that have no chance in the Senate or courts is what is most likely to scuttle this effort.
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Predictable.
As is your endorsement of this very weak sauce.
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Your lack in belief inn compromise is probably right. but I also believe the House will have to give in to say that they did do something.
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Agree with Mr. Roberts. The federal government can’t govern its way out of a wet paper bag. Leave it to the States. This is how incrementalism does it’s damage. The federal government imposes more laws at the end of the day none of which addresses the catalyst act. And it gets to keep grinding away at destroying the protections of the second amendment. The federal government never goes away satisfied. No thank you .
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What do you see as a new Federal power here?
NICS and Straw purchases are already under Federal law, and the red flag laws will remain state they will just be offered incentives. Note that I believe Red Flag laws will eventually be held in violation of the 14th Amendment.
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…” I believe Red Flag laws will eventually be held in violation of the 14th Amendment.”
If Due Process is handled properly, there is no reason for Red Flag Laws to be a violation of the 14th. They can be challenged, but if due process is deemed met, then there is no argument.
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“In retrospect, Sandy Hook marked the end of the U.S. gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.” Dan Hodges
Activism is high now. Perhaps, just perhaps, we may come to our collective senses and decide that killing children is not so bearable after all.
Fortunately for the ambitious crazies, even if schools are hardened like prisons and teachers wear flak jackets and pistols, there are plenty of malls, churches, synagogues, mosques, Walmarts, concerts and businesses to shoot up.
After all, what good are 400 million guns if we don’t fire them at moving targets once in a while. 😇
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