So now we had top Republican leaders doing the same and it was ok?
“As Russian forces invade Ukraine, Russian TV features Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo and Tucker Carlson praising Putin.” Cheney Tweet.
https://www.newsweek.com/cheney-rips-trump-pompeo-praising-russian-president-putin-evil-1682980
Tidewater News and Opinion Forum 
RE: “So now we had top Republican leaders doing the same…”
Not really. This accusation is unhinged.
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Why. Putin is using our top conservatives, ex-president, his top cabinet mate and one of the most popular pundits in red America. Calling him a genius is pretty heady stuff for him. And necessary for his home crowd by taking some pressure off his ratings.
Plus, a Republican with some ethics brought it up.
I would say it is fully hinged to point that out. What was unhinged were the stupid comments by those supposed “patriots”.
Well, patriots for some other country perhaps.
PS: a recent Gallup poll evidently found that about a third of Republicans like Putin.
Like I said earlier, “red birds of a feather stick together”.
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RE: “Well, patriots for some other country perhaps.”
There it is again: The unhinged accusation.
I guess everybody has to act and think like you or else they deserve to be called unpatriotic.
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Please explain why all the Trumpers are enthusiastic supporters of the KGB gangster and his illegal, murderous war on a neighboring country? Is that easier than admitting that Dear Leader is, in fact, a compromised stooge in the thrall of Putin?
Here is something to jog your understanding. . .
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RE: “Please explain why all the Trumpers are enthusiastic supporters of the KGB gangster and his illegal, murderous war on a neighboring country?”
Please explain why anyone should take your fantasy seriously.
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“I guess everybody has to act and think like you or else they deserve to be called unpatriotic.”
Classic whataboutism. Anyone that stood up to Trump was called “unpatriotic”.
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“I guess everybody has to act and think like you or else they deserve to be called unpatriotic.“
Not at all. It is not necessarily just about patriotism, though that is part of it, but more about rank stupidity. Putin is a butcher with blood on his hands. Internally as well as in other countries. And that was before his invasion of another sovereign nation. His support of the Russians separatists in the SE Ukraine has cost 14,000 lives since 2014
Did those ignorant Republicans not imagine that Putin would use their fawning compliments for propaganda?
What did those brilliant statesmen think our $500 million in military aid that Trump stalled in his infamous call was for? Hunting?
Russians have hacked our companies, the power grid and parked their butt in our State Department computers for almost a year under the past administration.
Patriots don’t take sides with the enemy when crisis occurs.
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RE: “Did those ignorant Republicans not imagine that Putin would use their fawning compliments for propaganda?”
Whether they did or not, Putin is responsible for doing so, not them.
You do realize that you are encouraging prior restraint of free speech as a litmus test for the good behavior of American citizens, don’t you?
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No, that makes no sense. Think about what you just said.
Trump, Pompeo and Carlson are not little folks like you and me. For a sizable portion of Republicans here and right wing group’s overseas policy, these guys are prominent and respected.
Putin could not have used those stooges without their complicit stupidity.
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RE: “Trump, Pompeo and Carlson are not little folks like you and me.”
They put their pants on one leg at a time, just like everone else. So, I think you are inventing excuses to express your scorn.
As a matter of principle, free speech is for everyone. Why anyone would argue for a special exemption to that rule is beyond me.
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“ They put their pants on one leg at a time, just like everyone else.”
Sure they do, but it makes the news whereas when you and I get dressed no one much cares unless we go outside naked.
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Like I said, I think you are inventing excuses to express your scorn for people you don’t like.
In another thread I made a point of the possibility that Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is really an attack on the West, primarily on the U.S. and Europe (to show we are impotent). If I am correct about this, then you are playing into Putin’s hands by immediately attacking your own fellow citizens.
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“ that Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is really an attack on the West, primarily on the U.S. and Europe (to show we are impotent).”
Putin is our friend just showing our weakness so that we can improve?
That’s a novel idea.
Well, perhaps we can get his millions of fans in the Republican Party to shower him with adulation. More than they already have, of course.
Go ahead and support Putin if you want. I am sure he is the solution to our problems. 😇
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…”you are playing into Putin’s hands by immediately attacking your own fellow citizens.”
January 6th was an attack on “fellow citizens” and the 74 million voters who chose Biden over Trump.
Tacit support by high profile right wing pundits, TFG, and TFG’s puppet SECSTATE are being used as propaganda by Russian State TV (See my post from yesterday in this thread). Those useful idiots are free to say whatever they want. We are also free to tell them that they are being unpatriotic in supporting a madman who has invaded a sovereign nation in order to benefit himself and FORCING his influence on a country that wants nothing to do with him. Remember that the Ukrainian people voted out the last Putin puppet in a democratic election.
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…” I think you are inventing excuses “…
Liz Cheney is who made the statement. Len is agreeing with it, not making excuses.
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That was 81 million.
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“… encouraging prior restraint of free speech…”
Not at all. Free speech is an important right. Actually, the most important right. Opinions are what they are. By showing Republican support, as in 33%, for Putin (in 2016 it went to 35%] we can debate. And ascertain why and who are supporting an enemy of the state so when those folks start their “civil war” or secession movements we can suggest a country that loves them back.
Think of all the bloodshed we can avoid. 😇
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A former anchor at Kremlin-backed RT Television makes the case.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/im-a-former-russian-tv-anchor-right-wing-media-mimics-russian-media?ref=home
She was on the inside and speaks with great candor about the meld between RT and Fox News.
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You forgot to provide the pictures of Trump manning Russian anti-aircraft guns in Ukraine like aintfondajane did in Vietnam. Please post those.
Trump mocking Biden and his inept responses is not unpatriotic, it’s just easy. Honestly, with gas rising by almost 40% in one year, energy dependence, people flooding across our borders, racial pandering, rampant inflation among many others, what’s not to mock of that dolt?
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Mocking Biden or boosting Putin?
There is a difference. We may have mocked Trump when he met with Kim, but who praised Kim for his “genius”?
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RE: “Mocking Biden or boosting Putin?”
Do you have no shame?
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Why do you ask that? Wasn’t Trump criticized for his meetings with Kim that accomplished nothing except making Kim a hero.
But did anyone say Kim was “savvy”, a “genius”…?
So help me find my “lost shame”. Thanks.
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Excellent point Mr. Smith.
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Which point? That gas prices up means we should kiss the KGB lackey’s butt?
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RE: “Excellent point Mr. Smith.”
Agreed. Jane Fonda went too far. I give her credit for apologizing for her mistakes, if only because they were real mistakes and need to be seen that way.
Comparing Trump, Pompeo and Carlson to Jane Fonda is just an exercise in failing ideology.
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It’s an exercise in TRUTH. Threatening to hold up congressionally approved aid to “do us a favor, though”? Now praising the man who is attacking the same country he tried to blackmail?
Different time, different individuals, but the similarities are there.
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Jane Fonda was taken on a tour of a POW camp. One of the prisoners slipped her a note with the serial numbers of some of the prisoners so their families could know they were alive and so that they would be known to the Red Cross. She turned it over to the guards.
So, take care who you draw parallels to.
Regarding the comments Trump and others made, context matters.
Taking note of the skill of an opponent is not the same thing as endorsement,
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That story was a lie.
https://www.factcheck.org/2010/11/blame-jane-falsehoods/
As the article says, the POW’s asked to meet with her, and they already knew who they were, no need to pass notes. And none were beaten.
Don’t you folks check anything or just eat up whatever politically expedient story someone makes up.
Yes, she was used for propaganda in 1972 and that was a problem for the anti-war movement. She regrets the photo in the gun mount for sure. And has apologized for that. But the rest is BS.
Like the Swift Boat lies about Kerry.
So, what Trump, Pompeo, Carlson, et.al did was at best stupidity at worst aiding the enemy.
And if all the hacking that Russians have done, including parking at the State Department computers for a year during the last administration, don’t you think they are the enemy?
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RE: “…don’t you think they are the enemy?”
How important is it to you to create an “us vs. them” view of current events?
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“How important is it to you to create an “us vs. them” view of current events?
It’s done all of the time by those on the right, yourself included. And that is WITHIN this country.
Are you saying that Putin is not a threat to the liberal world order that has been in place since the end of WWI? Mitt Romney called it out several years ago; he is being proven right today.
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We did not create that. Putin and his enablers have done that already.
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“ How important is it to you to create an “us vs. them” view of current events?”
“Enemy of the people” and # LIBERATE were pretty good examples of what the Republicans hammered daily. So who has created “us v. them”?
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I believed the story to be true, but apparently it is not.
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“Jane Fonda . . .”
You parrot a frequently debunked and very ugly lie?
Are you lazy, stupid or dishonest? Which?
You do this so often that it becomes a serious question.
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Dr. Tabor. Anyone could believe that story because it was understood in the context of the overall reprehensible behavior she exhibited; giving aid and comfort to the enemy in a time or war. She gets no pass.
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Fonda has been vilified for 50 years. I don’t think she got much of a pass.
Let’s consider the same condemnation of those who support and admire Putin while he is attacking a European nation, hacking our commerce and government, threatening nuclear war and shelling homes.
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And who would that be?
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And who would that be?
Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Mike Pompeo, Sen. Ron Johnson, Sen. Tom Cotton and many other Republicans.
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“Anyone could believe that story”…
And ANYONE could have fact checked it before repeating it. Dr. Tabor should have looked into it before posting a story that has been debunked a while ago.
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