OK, taking down Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson was ill advised but understandable, but Lewis and Clark is just too much like the Taliban blowing up Buddhist relics. History is being erased to eliminate the concept of the United States.
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” . . . eliminate the concept of the United States”
YOUR concept, maybe. Modern people would like to see more emphasis on the idea of “United” and if it helps a little to avoid honoring heorics in defense of slavery or daring but murderous expeditions to expropriate the lands and homes of other people then . . . Why not?
Whistling past the graveyard.
You said essentially the same thing before 2018 and 2020 if memory serves.
Do you really think serving up the Trumpiest jackasses around – which the GOP is doomed to do – is going to be good for them in the 2022 election? If you do, I think you are wrong.
The premise of the WSJ opinion piece is laughable. Right wing media and propagandists are the ones CONSTANTLY scratching around for new fronts in the “Culture War.” For example, who ever heard of “Critical Race Theory” – an obscure subject of discussion in obscure academic circles for decades until the right wing started publicizing their version of it – an obvious attempt to attract racists?
But hey, we get it. Since you have no record, no ideas and no policies that you can sell in the “marketplace of ideas”, culture war it is. Again.
Peggy Noonan writes in the WSJ piece: “The cultural provocations that are currently tearing us apart do, certainly and obviously, come from progressives. And the left seems to have no prudent fear of backlash. They don’t seem to believe public opinion counts for much anymore.”
She doesn’t go far enough. The left, or at least leftism, controls Big Tech and major media. They think they are exempt from public opinion because they assume that they are the ones who create it. They have no “prudent fear of backlash” because they haven’t noticed and may never notice how thoroughly they embarrassed themselves in the eyes of the actual public in recent years.
My understanding is that it was not based so much on what Lewis and Clark did as the actual statue itself.
“Eighteen-feet-tall, it shows Lewis and Clark towering over Sacagawea, their indigenous guide and interpreter, as she kneels behind them. The inscription on the pedestal beneath the statue makes no mention of the woman.“
The statue was erected 100 years ago, when American schoolchildren were taught history. They knew about Sacagawea’s part in the expedition. You don’t need a guide to go up a river, she was an interpreter. That was important, but it was a gesture to inclusiveness that she was on the statue at all.
The guys who paddled the canoes weren’t mentioned on the plaque either.
But certainly, a more descriptive plaque could have been added, telling more of the story to our current generation which is largely ignorant of history.
RE: “History is being erased to eliminate the concept of the United States.”
That seems to be the pattern.
I can’t think of a good rule for deciding when to keep or remove public statuary, but ideological control of history should not be a factor. After reviewing photos of the Lewis & Clark statue, I would have kept it for aesthetic reasons. It is a beautiful piece of work, both visually and conceptually.
So what was the “culture war” that was fought before 1965? A lot of blood was shed during that battle for government accountability in war and civil rights for millions of African Americans.
Closer to a real war, but it was all about culture if one is honest.
Yes they are very busy tearing down any semblance of history to satisfy some warped desire to satisfy a few cultist protesters who see mindless shame in every corner of our history. I am waiting for them to take Jefferson down and rename the college MLK and Indian U.
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” . . . eliminate the concept of the United States”
YOUR concept, maybe. Modern people would like to see more emphasis on the idea of “United” and if it helps a little to avoid honoring heorics in defense of slavery or daring but murderous expeditions to expropriate the lands and homes of other people then . . . Why not?
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By all means, keep running the Democratic party off the left side of the road. 2022 is coming.
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“2022 is coming.”
Whistling past the graveyard.
You said essentially the same thing before 2018 and 2020 if memory serves.
Do you really think serving up the Trumpiest jackasses around – which the GOP is doomed to do – is going to be good for them in the 2022 election? If you do, I think you are wrong.
The premise of the WSJ opinion piece is laughable. Right wing media and propagandists are the ones CONSTANTLY scratching around for new fronts in the “Culture War.” For example, who ever heard of “Critical Race Theory” – an obscure subject of discussion in obscure academic circles for decades until the right wing started publicizing their version of it – an obvious attempt to attract racists?
But hey, we get it. Since you have no record, no ideas and no policies that you can sell in the “marketplace of ideas”, culture war it is. Again.
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Peggy Noonan writes in the WSJ piece: “The cultural provocations that are currently tearing us apart do, certainly and obviously, come from progressives. And the left seems to have no prudent fear of backlash. They don’t seem to believe public opinion counts for much anymore.”
She doesn’t go far enough. The left, or at least leftism, controls Big Tech and major media. They think they are exempt from public opinion because they assume that they are the ones who create it. They have no “prudent fear of backlash” because they haven’t noticed and may never notice how thoroughly they embarrassed themselves in the eyes of the actual public in recent years.
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My understanding is that it was not based so much on what Lewis and Clark did as the actual statue itself.
“Eighteen-feet-tall, it shows Lewis and Clark towering over Sacagawea, their indigenous guide and interpreter, as she kneels behind them. The inscription on the pedestal beneath the statue makes no mention of the woman.“
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The statue was erected 100 years ago, when American schoolchildren were taught history. They knew about Sacagawea’s part in the expedition. You don’t need a guide to go up a river, she was an interpreter. That was important, but it was a gesture to inclusiveness that she was on the statue at all.
The guys who paddled the canoes weren’t mentioned on the plaque either.
But certainly, a more descriptive plaque could have been added, telling more of the story to our current generation which is largely ignorant of history.
That’s not what they did.
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RE: “History is being erased to eliminate the concept of the United States.”
That seems to be the pattern.
I can’t think of a good rule for deciding when to keep or remove public statuary, but ideological control of history should not be a factor. After reviewing photos of the Lewis & Clark statue, I would have kept it for aesthetic reasons. It is a beautiful piece of work, both visually and conceptually.
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So what was the “culture war” that was fought before 1965? A lot of blood was shed during that battle for government accountability in war and civil rights for millions of African Americans.
Closer to a real war, but it was all about culture if one is honest.
What makes this new one so critical?
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It’s now.
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And it suits you.
One of the underlying issues in this new culture “battle” was the fact that many of them were not resolved in 1965.
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Yes they are very busy tearing down any semblance of history to satisfy some warped desire to satisfy a few cultist protesters who see mindless shame in every corner of our history. I am waiting for them to take Jefferson down and rename the college MLK and Indian U.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wtop.com/virginia/2021/07/removal-of-george-rogers-clark-statue-on-u-va-s-campus-begins-sunday/amp/
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