Even a Military-Enforced Quarantine Can’t Stop the Virus, Study Reveals

Source: American Institute for Economic Research.

Most significant in this story is the disconnect between the substance of the study and how the study’s key finding is reported by media. It almost seems as if media are protecting a special interest by shaping narratives away from the facts at hand.

Pro-lockdown propaganda is suddenly commonplace. I don’t trust it.

13 thoughts on “Even a Military-Enforced Quarantine Can’t Stop the Virus, Study Reveals

  1. What “special interest” is everyone conspiring to protect?

    The “facts at hand” are that the virus spreads from person to person through the air, mask wearing and social distancing reduce transmission. Period.

    The experience of the United States under the “leadership” Donald Trump is clear – half-measures and rosy disinformation do not help contain the virus.

    The routine described in the article where Marines mixed with other people free to go about their business in a variety of settings is hardly a “quarantine.” It simply demonstrates how insidious the transmission is and why half-measures do not work.

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    1. RE: “The ‘facts at hand’ are that the virus spreads from person to person through the air, mask wearing and social distancing reduce transmission. Period.”

      Only in your imagination. The study found the opposite: “the nonparticipants actually contracted the virus at a slightly lower rate than those who were under an extreme regime. Conversely, extreme enforcement of NPIs was associated with a greater degree of infection.”

      Your comment suggests that you are rejecting the science.

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      1. What a dopey response!
        These are the facts . . .
        1. The virus spreads from person to person through the air – as I said.
        2. Mask wearing reduces transmission – as I said.
        3. Social distancing reduces transmission – as I said.

        These FACTS are the science. You are the one trying to find a reason to reject the science for God only knows what reason. Maybe to maintain you full membership in the Trump cult?

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  2. “ The quarantine measures and adherence to them were far more strict than what would occur at a typical college campus, said another study leader, Mount Sinai’s Dr. Stuart Sealfon.
    “This is a really infectious virus. You really need to use a combination of good public health measures, temperature checks, mask wearing, social distancing, hand washing … and comprehensive testing” to prevent spread, he said.”

    https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/coronavirus/2020/11/11/study-of-marine-recruits-finds-fever-symptom-screening-misses-many-coronavirus-cases/

    It seems that the efforts we are taking, and have been, are still on track.

    But that is according to one of the NEJM study leaders. What does he know?

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    1. RE: “It seems that the efforts we are taking, and have been, are still on track.”

      How so, given that the control group in the study experienced less infection than the test group that adhered to those efforts?

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      1. ““ The quarantine measures and adherence to them were far more strict than what would occur at a typical college campus, said another study leader, Mount Sinai’s Dr. Stuart Sealfon.
        “This is a really infectious virus. You really need to use a combination of good public health measures, temperature checks, mask wearing, social distancing, hand washing … and comprehensive testing” to prevent spread, he said.”

        Ask him. He was one of the leaders of the study.

        Really, nothing has changed with what we need to do until a vaccine.

        The lockdowns are really to keep the spikes from getting out of control with regards to our capacities to handle the hospitalizations. Right now North Dakota, Montana, parts of Texas, etc. are running out of ICU spaces and the frontline workers are exhausted. It is not just a matter of infection rates among asymptomatic people. If that were the case, then the hospitals would not be jammed.

        This new surge, predicted last spring and summer by the epidemiologists, is hitting the red states that poo-pooed the contagion in the early days. #LIBERATE took hold in those places. And we are just beginning the colder days.

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      2. RE: “The lockdowns are really to keep the spikes from getting out of control with regards to our capacities to handle the hospitalizations.”

        That’s the theory. But one would like to see theories supported by science. In this instance, the science doesn’t support the theory.

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        1. “In this instance, the science doesn’t support the theory.”

          Perhaps when the ICU’s are full and the body counts continue to rise, we can skip theory and hone in on reality.

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          1. No.

            I am pointing out that hospitalizations are currently increasing quickly in states than spurned lockdown or even mask wearing.

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          2. Cases are growing rapidly is areas where the virus had not previously been widespread.

            I am as much a fan of masks as anyone, but that is because there are a lot of people in jobs that have public contact who were not yet exposed.

            That’s why infections move in waves. As the number of previously uninfected people run down, the virus has fewer people to infect, so you get a decline.

            Right now, the front of the wave is in the Dakotas.

            Add winter to that especially in cold areas and it will be worse.

            Time to get the vaccines out to those at risk of dying RIGHT NOW

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  3. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2029717

    Read the study itself. The characterization of its findings by this silly website is grossly inaccurate. You have been duped. All the Marines – both participants and non-participants – went through exactly the same living conditions. There was no “quarantined” group vs non-quarantined group.

    What the study actually shows is that people living together in close proximity for weeks at a time are not fully protected from the virus by intermittent mask wearing (not worn while eating together or sleeping the barracks) and intermittent social distancing (all took instruction and classes together – some indoors and some outside.) This is hardly surprising and says virtually nothing about the need to wear a mask and stay away from people outside of your home.

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