25th Amendment Commission idea infuriates Trump.

Trump outraged by Democrats’ plan to assess president’s fitness to serve

Pelosi is obviously trolling Donald Trump by bringing this up now. But, the failure of the sycophants in the Trump Cabinet to act when it is so clearly needed highlights the dangerous flaw of the current approach – it assumes that those people in the Cabinet will put country ahead of party or personal interests. Obviously, they don’t. Otherwise, Trump would still be in the hospital where he belongs while taking mood altering drugs.

There is no way that the proposed bi-partisan commission can be implemented before Trump leaves office anyway, but – as Pelosi has pointed out – Trump’s behavior shows that it is something worthy of serious consideration.

25 thoughts on “25th Amendment Commission idea infuriates Trump.

  1. On Rush Limbaugh’s program, President Trump correctly identified this measure as preparation for taking out Biden after the election and installing Kamala Harris as President.

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    1. Paranoia reigns supreme in Trump world.

      “I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so that when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you.’”

      But some will believe the “Oracle of Mendacity”.

      Meanwhile, back to reality: 220,000, give or take a few, have died due to COVID. About the same as seasonal flu deaths over the last 1/2 decade or more. # LIBERATE

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    2. Given that the commission excludes Trump from the discussions, he (Trump) is correct. The first president to whom this could be applied would be Biden. See, even Trump knows he’s going to lose.

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    3. A comment has been disapproved in this thread for violating the Forum rule: No spam or advertising, be civil, personal insults and ad hominem attacks will not be tolerated.

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    4. So, you have removed my comment that demonstrated just how completely foolish your statement is? Not too lame. Instead of an answer just remove the comment.

      The essence of my comment – which you removed – was not only that you failed to understand the words “bi-partisan commission”, and seemed not to know how a bill becomes a law – Biden would have to sign it – but that if Biden wants Harris to be President he does not have to engage in a conspiracy to remove himself. All he has to do is resign.

      Go ahead, remove this one too. If that is all you have got.

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        1. OK, this is getting a bit ridiculous, and if I may say so, childish.

          No problem with schoolyard insults like “you are a sick man”, yet Paul is now the target for moderation.

          Power corrupts…

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          1. RE: “A little sarcasm, banter and pointing out the obvious not OK?”

            In this case, no. Mr. Murphy would do well to rewrite his comment in a way to eliminate the three ad hominem statements it begins with. Three insulting statements in a row is not “a little” of anything.

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          2. For someone who complains about social media being unfair to right wing comments, you seem to be doing the same with regards to liberal comments here.

            This blog has got to be one of the most civil places on the net. With a couple of exceptions from the occasional trolling insults from just a couple of people, the rest are comments that actually touch on real issues.

            I disagree with your censoring and unless Don casts a deciding vote, I will effectively (or is it virtually) challenge you decision.

            (Whatever the heck that means.)

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          3. So, Mr. Roberts, why do you keep taking down my words that lead to your decision? Dr. Tabor has already seen them. He can take it. But maybe now you are covering those words up because your “moderation” was not actually warranted? Restore the post so everyone can see what has you so upset. For your convenience, I will post it again immediately. If it is gone AGAIN we will know that you do not stand by your silly actions.

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          4. RE: “So, Mr. Roberts, why do you keep taking down my words that lead to your decision?”

            If you would like to re-write your comment to be compliant, I won’t remove it. As I explained to Mr. Rothman, your orginal comment begins with three ad hominem statements in a row.

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          5. Pointless gesture. The damage is done. Moderation credibility is gone.

            Unless, of course, an admission of being overzealous is forthcoming.

            If sarcasm, pointed jabs and a bit of snark are ruled out, then such censorship would wipe out half the commentators in history. If nothing else, a bit of verbal jousting would revert to fighting with foam rubber swords.

            I am not condoning “shove it” or “go f— yourself”, both of which I may have written in the past followed by apologies.

            Interestingly enough, the main political topics, Trump and the regime, are both responsible for foul mouthed insults and childish remarks and we have managed to stay above the fray even with regards to that.

            I suggest we re-post Paul’s comment and let the rest of the participants decide.

            Don is the tie breaker. Just like the VP in a Senate vote.

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          6. I see you have taken my comment down again. You seem unwilling to have others see your very poor understanding of what an ad hominem attack is. If you would read some of the posts directed at me, which you did not object to, maybe you would develop a better idea.

            What is actually not civil is someone – as Dr. Tabor has done in this case – spreading Mr. Trump’s divisive and ignorant conspiracy theories as if they were holy writ. And obviously without much thought. In this case the theory being touted is that the idea of the a BI-PARTISAN commission to exercise 25th Amendment oversight of a President’s mental fitness is a CONSPIRACY to replace President Joe Biden with Vice President Kamala Harris. That is UTTER NONSENSE.

            The legislation requires that it both pass both Houses of Congress and that President Biden sign it into law. Why would he do that if it was a conspiracy to remove him? It makes zero sense, but Tabor seems not to have understood that. If Biden is part of a plan to make Harris the President, all he need do is resign.

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        1. I don’t agree. Congress can do nothing unless informed by the Executive officers that the president is unable to carry out the duties of office.

          “Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.”

          “Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.”

          It is all up to the VP and a majority of the cabinet. They have to get the procedures started. Only when no decision can be made for a variety of reasons, is it up to Congress and requires 2/3’s majority of both Houses.

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        2. It appears that you have not read it. Or not understood it. Here is the relevant text . . .

          “Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.”

          As it stands now, the process of initiating the action is in the hands of the Cabinet. But note that the Constitution empowers Congress to establish a different body in lieu of the Cabinet. That is what the Pelosi proposal is about. Why? Because the cabinet is a poor mechanism for this vital role – they are not putting the country ahead of partisan and personal interests. As a result we have a President who is clearly addled by disease and medication still with the “football” in his hands.

          This will not affect Trump – should it eventually become law – but his medical crisis demonstrates that reform is needed for the future.

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          1. That is the point, Pelosi’s plan would transfer the decision from the executive branch to the legislative.

            That bypasses the checks and balances intended by the Constitution.

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          2. Baloney.

            The Vice President has to be part of the process. He is in the Executive Branch. Besides, the Congress already has the power to remove a President who is not fit.

            Finally, it is amazing how you can sit there and talk about this violating the Constitution. The 25th Amendment IS the Constitution and it explicitly gives Congress the authority to decide who will initiate this process. Read it again if you do not want to believe me.

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    1. Minds are already made up. Millions of ballots cast.

      Trump is depending upon Clinton’s emails to rise again like they did in 2016. Conspiracies are flying. Putin is laughing his butt off. Trump’s call to arms by white gangs is netting results.

      Geez, this sounds like the cover of a potboiler novel.

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