More info on the bipartisan Senate Russian investigation

Gee, the Trump campaign was in bed with the Russians.  And, the committee found that the Russians have been targeting the GOP for years before the election. With Trump they found the weak link needed to mess with our country. “The transfer of internal campaign data to a known Russian agent is “about as clear a coordination or cooperation between two entities as could be established,” said Senator Angus King, a Maine independent on the Senate Intelligence Committee who votes with Democrats.”

“The committee said it found evidence — redacted for national security reasons — that Mr. Kilimnik may have been involved in the covert effort by the Russian government to hack into the computer networks of Democratic organizations and funnel damaging emails to the rogue website WikiLeaks, which released them just before the election.”

Shooting a person on Fifth Avenue is only the murder of a single person. This report outlines treason against the entire country. In the words of Trump himself, “fire the son of a bitch”. Kneeling for the National Anthem is not even close to the crimes our president has committed.

35 thoughts on “More info on the bipartisan Senate Russian investigation

        1. The Trump campaign through its chairman told Russian intelligence where they planned to concentrate via polling information.

          We know the Russians were working to get Trump elected.

          We know the Russian intelligence hacked the Democratic files and got them to Wikileaks. Roger Stone was in the middle of that.

          We know Manafort has been in Putin’s circle via his work for the ousted Ukrainian President.

          We know Trump had long term, lucrative deals with Russian oligarchs.

          I call that treason.

          You can call it patriotism, but that doesn’t make it so anymore than calling the Monarch butterfly a king.

          In other words the “enemy of the people” is sitting in the Oval Office as we write.

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          1. RE: “We know the Russian intelligence hacked the Democratic files and got them to Wikileaks. Roger Stone was in the middle of that.”

            No, we don’t know that:

            “The ‘hacking of the DNC’ charge suffered a fatal blow three months ago when it became known that Shawn Henry, president of the DNC-hired cyber-security firm CrowdStrike, admitted under oath that his firm had no evidence that the DNC emails were hacked — by Russia or anyone else.”

            https://www.zerohedge.com/political/catapulting-russian-meddling-propaganda

            You gotta stop believing fake news.

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          2. “ MR. HENRY: We said that we had a high degree of confidence it was the
            RussianGovernment.Andouranalyststhatlookedatitthathadlookedatthese types of attacks before, many different types of attacks similar to this in different
            environments, certain tools that were used, certain methods by which they were
            movingintheenvironment,andlookingatthetypesofdatathatwasbeing targeted, that it was consistent with a nation-state adversary and associated with Russian intelligence.”

            Click to access sh21.pdf

            Then Henry added:

            “…but the activities were consistent with what we’d seen previously, targeting other — the state Department, for exampre, the Joint chiefs, other governments, western governments. And it was consistent with what we’d seen previously and associated but the activities were consistent with what we’d seen previously, targeting other — the state Department, for exampre, the Joint chiefs, other governments, western governments. And it was consistent with what we’d seen but the activities were consistent with what we’d seen previously, targeting other — the state Department, for exampre, the Joint chiefs, other governments, western governments. And it was consistent with what we’d seen previously and associated with the Russian Government. previously and associated with the Russian Government. with the Russian Government.

            This is from the transcript of the hearing and Mr. Henry’s testimony.

            I am not sure where your info is coming from, but I saw these one quote about exfiltration, but it does not excuse the Russian fingerprints.

            Sorry for the compactIng of the words in my paste. But it is legible.

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          3. “We know the Russians were working to get Trump elected.

            No, we don’t. We know SOME Russians preferred Trump to Hillary, which makes sense as she is a warmonger, but EVERY single investigation has shown that the primary intention was to so discord so whoever won would be hobbled in office. Which, thanks largely to bad loser Democrats, they succeeded in doing.

            “We know the Russian intelligence hacked the Democratic files and got them to Wikileaks.”

            No, we don’t. We know that partisan and deep state actors claim that but Assange, who has never been caught in a lie, says it was not so.

            “We know Manafort has been in Putin’s circle via his work for the ousted Ukrainian President.”

            As opposed to Biden and his son who actually did use the power of Biden’s office for his son’s personal gain.

            “We know Trump had long term, lucrative deals with Russian oligarchs.”

            As did pretty much everyone in the hotel and resort industry. As Russia emerged from the Soviet Union, it was a rich field to plow for developers.

            Unlike Biden, who has spent his entire life as a politician, Trump had a real job.

            “I call that treason.”

            You can call it a Leprechaun but it still won’t be so.

            The real enemies of the people are in the deep state pulling Biden’s strings.

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          4. Nice try. There are so many Russian links and connections it is hard to keep up.

            All the reports concluded that Russians were trying to help Trump and sow seeds of dissension.

            As campaign chairman, Manafort gave polling information to Russian intelligence. Just that alone is damning information.

            Trump is a con man of long standing. He has literally lied about everything and yet, his fans believe him when he denies Putin’s help.

            True trump had a job. Pissing away $400 million of dad’s money, multiple bankruptcies and screwing investors, students, vendors, taxpayers, the US government and porn stars paid off with campaign funds.

            And he extorts US companies who don’t kiss his fat butt.

            But I am not going to change your mind, nor you mine.

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          5. You, and your party, are aiding the Russians a great deal more than Trump or even Manafort, as you have worked for 3 1/2 years to accomplish their goal.

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          6. My love of our nation and it’s government, warts and all, is quite strong thank you very much.

            Trump is a traitor to our principles. His unrelenting attacks on our electoral system is proof. He has flat stated that if he loses, the election was rigged. What kind of crap is that?

            He demands that companies kiss his ass or he will destroy them. Real American values there.

            His son wet his pants to meet with Russians with direct access to the Kremlin, or so he thought.

            You know that of Obama, or any Democrat, had just half this baggage, you would be locking and loading.

            Trump is the enemy of America. His fans are either too dumb, too blind or have a financial interest in his shenanigans.

            IMHO

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          7. That’s a pretty serious indictment. I am sure you can explain why I am personally tearing apart this country and you and Trump are not.

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          8. Because you still cling to the Russia thing, even after it has been rejected in every investigation. You still accuse Trump of treason. Not being wrong on policy, but treason.

            You know better, but you persist to try to delegitimize his election rather than oppose on policy.

            You are granting the Russians wish for an ineffective administration.

            It’s really no different than those who clung to the birther thing long after that issue was settled.

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          9. I disagree. The Russian interference in favor of Trump is well documented. Sending polling info to Russian intelligence is well documented.

            Trumps administration is a chaotic mess, so no need to call on Putin.

            But it’s not just the Russians. His racist appeals about suburban housewives risking rape by “young bucks”, to paraphrase another Republican, because of minority infiltration.

            The whole denigration of the Post Office because it provides a profitable service to Amazon, FEDEX, etc.

            And, of course, his Condemning the election in case he loses.

            His extortion of US companies. That alone is treasonous behavior in a free market capitalist nation.

            His unending trade wars that he is losing, but we have to pay for.

            His incredible nepotism. His rogues gallery of felons, tax cheats, thieves and incompetents with a revolving door for fresh jerks.

            His open agenda of constantly confusing his fellow citizens so they don’t know what to believe.

            I understand you dislike Democrats. So your support of Trump is sadly understandable. To me he is taking the country to the sewer as long as he is in the White House and you are supporting that.

            So even forgetting the Russian connections, there is so much behavior that is damaging to our country, both criminal and petty, that he should have been booted by now. But he has the Senate afraid to do any of their Constitutional duties.

            None of this means much to Trump’s fans. You amazed me when you wrote about Manafort that it is not illegal to share polling info with anyone.

            True. Russian intelligence was just there to help. I didn’t think of that.

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          10. I sort of agree that treason might be a stronger word than needed. In the legal

            The policies I listed, including attacks on the USPS, extortion of US companies, declaring an election loss as fraud, calling critics and opposition parties “enemies” and the obvious appeals to racism are so damaging to our values as a nation that a traitor couldn’t do much more damage.

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          11. “As did pretty much everyone in the hotel and resort industry”

            Yes, but none of them have gained political office and monetized that office the way Trump has.

            “Trump had a real job.”

            That is very debatable. If you mean that having 6 different businesses file bankruptcy just in the name of not paying creditors, then sure. But inheriting daddy’s money and squandering quite a bit of it and then having to be bailed out by said daddy several times is NOT, IMO a “real job”.

            …”the deep state pulling Biden’s strings.”

            The mythological deep state is just that; a myth. Accusing Biden of having is strings pulled is just rancorous BS to attempt to deflect the true failure of the Trump Presidency. The Dems have a platform of ideas; the GOP’s “platform” is full-throated support of whatever Trump decides to do on any given day. There is no plan, just a lot of shouting lies in an attempt to fire up the base with no evidence of anything else except a desperate attempt to remain in power.

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          12. @lenrothman

            You should read your own quotes carefully. They don’t report any actual evidence of Russian hacking, only patterns and inferences of appearances that are suggestive.

            But apart from the fantasy story you are promoting, Henry said point blank to Adam Schiff that Russia took no data from the DNC.

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          13. Show me the quote and cite the page in the transcript.

            As far as your interpretation, true, there are no videos of swarthy men drinking vodka and hacking away.

            But in the digital security world, patterns are how they ID the hackers.

            The way I see it, the delivery of specific polling info and the easily extracted strategies to Russian intelligence is pure treason to help our adversary screw up our democracy.

            Your president is the real enemy of the nation.

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          14. Try this:

            “ Does CrowdStrike have evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC network?

            Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32) and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, the Intelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.”

            Did CrowdStrike see in real-time the adversaries exfiltrate data and emails from the DNC network?

            No and that’s typical for incident response cases.”

            https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

            This link is Crowdstrike’s own site.

            I believe I am right.

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          15. RE: “Show me the quote and cite the page in the transcript.”

            OK. From the same transcript you cited, above:

            “MR. SCHIFF: Do you know the date in which the Russians exfiltrated the data from the DNC? (page 31)…

            “MR.HENRY: Counsel just reminded me that, as it relates to the DNC we have indicators that data was exfiltrated. we did not have concrete evidence that
            data was exfiltrated from the DNC… (page 32).”

            Put another way, YOU are the one relying on interpretations, as opposed to facts, to assert fantasies as truth.

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          16. Read the rest of the transcript. I quoted another section that says the evidence was there.

            I will require my comment sgain.

            “ Yes. Shawn Henry stated in his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee that CrowdStrike had indicators of exfiltration (page 32) and that data had clearly left the network. Also, on page 2, the Intelligence Community Assessment also confirmed that the Russian intelligence agency GRU “had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.”

            Couldn’t be more clear. This is from Crowdstrike’s own website.

            If that is not good enough for you, …oh well.

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          17. Facts only confuse Trumpists, as proven many times before.

            The man can do no wrong in their eyes because they are so blinded by the snake oil they drank when it was sold to them.

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          18. Ever since a Trump was elected he has attacked our election systems.

            Once the pandemic took hold we are now facing a “coincidental” slowing of the USPS. The Postmaster General just started tearing into the delivery and access without hardly learning how our mail gets delivered.

            Also, a refusal to fund the USPS is in play.

            Money for election security measures was rejected by a McConnell last year.

            Trump has stated that if he loses, the election was fraudulent. That ought to get rioting in the streets a new life.

            He is stoking the old fears of minorities moving into the suburbs and living (gasp, choke…“there goes the neighborhood “) on the same streets as Whites. Where are the sundown laws when you need them?

            He has politicized mask wearing to the point where clerks and customers are getting attacked by #LIBERATE goofballs.

            He now blames the FDA for slow walking treatments and vaccines. Hello? It is his administration for gosh sakes. And has been for over 3 1/2 years.

            His campaign chairman, a tax cheat and Putin lover boy, gave critical polling info to Russian intelligence. Why not, Americans are too stupid to vote properly, so get Putin to help.

            And the patriotism of Democrats is in question?

            WTF! Alice in Wonderland makes a better case for our Constitution and government than the Republicans and their hero.

            We have a traitor hiding in plain sight in the Oval Office.

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          19. …”a refusal to fund the USPS is in play.”

            Easy solution to that: Change the 2006 law that said they had to pre-fund for 50 years retirement benefits. Cut it to 25 and the USPS becomes solvent again.

            Sad to say that not even Pelosi and her team have mentioned that.

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          20. Yeah, the politics of this mandated funding for 75 years out is just incredible. Think about it. This covers people who won’t be BORN until 2035 or so.

            So the new Postmaster General doesn’t even consider this for cost savings. Instead he starts “post haste” to rip apart the delivery structure without even learning the system.

            Had to shove that along quickly and quietly before people caught on.

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          21. RE: “Read the rest of the transcript. I quoted another section that says the evidence was there.”

            And I quoted the section where Henry corrected those misstatements: “we did not have concrete evidence that data was exfiltrated from the DNC… (page 32).”

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    1. I know this is probably pointless, but here is a recap of the Republican led Senate Report just released:

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/18/senate-details-paul-manafort-ties-russian-intel-officer-kilimnik/3390437001/

      You keep sidelining the Manafort connection as minor. Well the GOP Senate Committee disagrees:

      “Paul Manafort’s role as chairman of the Trump campaign, his longstanding ties to people affiliated with Russian intelligence services and his willingness to share information with them “represented a grave counterintelligence threat” during the 2016 presidential race, according to a new report from the Senate Intelligence Committee.

      “The Committee found that Manafort’s presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump campaign,” according to the nearly 1,000-page report released Tuesday.”

      “”Manafort briefed Kilimnik on the state of the Trump Campaign and Manafort’s plan to win the election,” the Mueller report concluded. “That briefing encompassed the campaign’s messaging and its internal polling data. According to Gates, it also included discussion of ‘battleground’ states, which Manafort identified as Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota.”

      “”Despite Trump’s recollection, the Committee assesses that Trump did, in fact, speak with Stone about WikiLeaks and with members of his Campaign about Stone’s access on multiple occasions,” the report said.”

      And, yes, the article did outline the problem with the Steele dossier.

      But, for me, this report clarifies the Trump campaign’s nefarious relationship with tax cheats and felons to get help from Russia, including the Wikileaks issue.

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