AP: US, Taliban sign deal aimed at ending war in Afghanistan

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There’s not much to say about this deal, other than it seems a step in the right direction.

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      1. Taliban restrictions and mistreatment of women include the:

        1- Complete ban on women’s work outside the home, which also applies to female teachers, engineers and most professionals. Only a few female doctors and nurses are allowed to work in some hospitals in Kabul.

        2- Complete ban on women’s activity outside the home unless accompanied by a mahram (close male relative such as a father, brother or husband).

        3- Ban on women dealing with male shopkeepers.

        4- Ban on women being treated by male doctors.

        5- Ban on women studying at schools, universities or any other educational institution. (Taliban have converted girls’ schools into religious seminaries.)

        6- Requirement that women wear a long veil (Burqa), which covers them from head to toe.

        7- Whipping, beating and verbal abuse of women not clothed in accordance with Taliban rules, or of women unaccompanied by a mahram.

        8- Whipping of women in public for having non-covered ankles.

        9- Public stoning of women accused of having sex outside marriage. (A number of lovers are stoned to death under this rule).

        10- Ban on the use of cosmetics. (Many women with painted nails have had fingers cut off).

        11- Ban on women talking or shaking hands with non-mahram males.

        12- Ban on women laughing loudly. (No stranger should hear a woman’s voice).

        13- Ban on women wearing high heel shoes, which would produce sound while walking. (A man must not hear a woman’s footsteps.)

        14- Ban on women riding in a taxi without a mahram.

        15- Ban on women’s presence in radio, television or public gatherings of any kind.

        16- Ban on women playing sports or entering a sport center or club.

        17- Ban on women riding bicycles or motorcycles, even with their mahrams.

        18- Ban on women’s wearing brightly colored clothes. In Taliban terms, these are “sexually attracting colors.”

        19- Ban on women gathering for festive occasions such as the Eids, or for any recreational purpose.

        20- Ban on women washing clothes next to rivers or in a public place.

        21- Modification of all place names including the word “women.” For example, “women’s garden” has been renamed “spring garden”.

        22- Ban on women appearing on the balconies of their apartments or houses.

        23- Compulsory painting of all windows, so women can not be seen from outside their homes.

        24- Ban on male tailors taking women’s measurements or sewing women’s clothes.

        25- Ban on female public baths.

        26- Ban on males and females traveling on the same bus. Public buses have now been designated “males only” (or “females only”).

        27- Ban on flared (wide) pant-legs, even under a burqa.

        28- Ban on the photographing or filming of women.

        29- Ban on women’s pictures printed in newspapers and books, or hung on the walls of houses and shops.

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          1. The Bush Administration hosed up the entire reaction to 9/11 so badly it became unfixable.

            I’m just ready to cheer the walk away that is taking place.

            It is a “walk of shame”…

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          2. It’s a concession to reality.

            It was Carter followed by Reagan who helped push the Soviets out of Afghanistan and let the Taliban take over. Afghanistan was unfixable long before Bush got involved.

            But to put it in the simplelist terms, the Soviets were brutal enough to deal with radical Islamists and we aren’t. Had we not given the Taliban Stinger missiles, women would still be wearing miniskirts to the university today.

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      2. @Jimmie

        “I wonder how the Afghan women feel about this?”

        Who knows?
        A majority of white women support Trump.

        But more seriously, do you have any real belief that we can fix Afghanistan with soldiers and air strikes? And why them? The conditions for women in other Islamic countries are not a lot better.

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        1. No, I have no faith in fixing it at all (certainly not with group of clowns)

          And walking away is pragmatic (very Taborish) but WE put ourselves there and have some moral responsibility. IMO.

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          1. I agree. The worst was that we gave the Afghan women some hope and a glimpse of a better world.

            Maybe the Trump administration will look out for the women to at least get some modicum of dignity.

            (What was that? Are you smirking?)

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  2. It will lets us get out and somewhat save face. Then whatever happens in Afghanistan stays in Afghanistan.

    Let’s hope we can turn the page on this ugly chapter in our history.

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    1. I watched Trump’s news conference today.
      He said some very strange things.

      According to him it is now up to the Taliban to take over killing the terrorists. Huh?

      More troubling is that he constantly talked about the Taliban as if they were the new government of Afghanistan. If that is what this deal entails then it will be a major embarrassment and quite similar to the way the Kurds were betrayed. If that is not the deal, then Trump is showing just how dumb he is to talk as if it were.

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