So how does confiscation work in the US?

https://www.pilotonline.com/opinion/letters/vp-ed-letd-0831-20190831-xlh6tirtazdo5dompv5pbctloa-story.html

According to this LTE, “licensing and registration is the first step in gun confiscation.”

(Where is the editor BTW? But I digress.)

So how is the confiscation going to take place? A missive from the White House to…whom? The governor of Texas to enforce the decree? I see, that should work just fine. He’ll tell the mayor of Abilene to round up all weapons. And I am sure he’ll hop to it and have a big pile of guns in a week or so.

Multiply that scenario by however many towns and cities there are in Texas. Then multiply that by 50 states.

There are not nearly enough military to do the job, so it requires the cooperation of every law enforcement agency in many varied jurisdictions. Ain’t gonna happen.

And is there any governor that will allow any president to confiscate the guns from his citizens?

All this irrational fear spread to avoid minimal competency, responsibility and solid vetting for criminal records and sanity.

IMHO

15 thoughts on “So how does confiscation work in the US?

  1. It is easy to imagine all sorts of practical, incremental processes if you assume that gun confiscation is a long-term goal for those who want it. This is the reason I and many others insist, flatly, that the right to keep and bear arms is fundamental and must be preserved without alteration.

    Personally, I have zero interest in the utopian dream of a gun-free society. It is an irrelevant and unnecessary dream in any case, if what you really want is an end to mass murder and other violent behavior.

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    1. My point was that gun confiscation in the US, with or without registration, licensing or permitting is unrealistic.

      But it is used as an excuse to avoid better background checks, training requirements or registration to provide a trail of responsibility in the event the gun is used for criminal mischief.

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    2. RE: “My point was that gun confiscation in the US… is unrealistic.”

      Yes, you clearly said that. My response is that gun confiscation in the US is not at all unrealistic. Not in the least.

      I’m not terribly upset about it, but I should note that I resent the suggestion that it is somehow foolish to think that gun confiscation is a real threat. My perception is that the process is well underway. It is therefore quite real.

      What irks me the most is the casual dismissal of founding principles that gun confiscation represents. When someone argues, “Don’t worry about it; it isn’t happening and it will never happen,” they might as well be saying that the Founders made a mistake when they wrote the 2nd Amendment. They might as well be saying there’s something wrong with America itself.

      There’s no shortage of such shallow reasoning and misplaced contempt in our time. These things won’t lead anyone toward a better future.

      Hence the necessity to preserve the individual right of gun ownership.

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  2. “the process is well underway.”

    If you could provide some information on the gun confiscation you believe is “well underway” I’d be anxious to read it. Thanks.

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    1. I have in mind the platforms of several of the Democratic candidates for president and, more worryingly, growing bipartisan support for Red Flag laws.

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      1. “Platforms” ??

        How does that equate to confiscation “well underway”?

        Not to be too harsh, but that smacks of “irrational fear” relative to the reality of enhanced background checks and more attention paid to identification of potentially violent mental disorders. IMO.

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      2. RE: “How does that equate to confiscation ‘well underway’?”

        All processes have beginnings and early stages. Here, for example, you, Mr. Rothman and Ms. Pope all seem inclined to abandon the 2nd Amendment. Several of the Democratic candidates have expressed support for legislation and executive action that would enable gun confiscation outright.

        Because such beginnings have predictable outcomes, that’s enough for me to assert that the “process of gun confiscation” is well underway.

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        1. You’re putting words in people’s mouths and demonstrating you have no coherent answer to a very simple question.

          And you continue to make assumptions on fantasies that exist only in your own head.

          You have zero idea what i’m Inclined to “abandon” or not.

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      3. Why do you worry about Red Flag laws? Getting guns away from people that pose a threat to themselves or others is a noble ide in the grand scheme of things.

        As far as full-on confiscation, it is a scare tactic used by the NRA and Republicans whenever a Democrat is elected president. It is also a money making enterprise for the gun industry, backed by the NRA’s tactics. The majority of Dems support the ideals of the 2A. However, the concern with unfettered access to firearms is NOT bad. It goes to the Preamble of the Constitution and the promise of …”life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

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  3. Actually, there would be NO mass confiscation.

    The process is:
    1) registration,
    2) regulation and banning,
    3) buy-back,
    4) prosecution of the holdouts.

    Step 3 merely reduces the number necessary for confiscation while at the same time identifying the dangerous people.

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  4. We’re at the 20 year mark of the “blood on the highway” legislation process that are the US codes.
    Over the next twenty years changes in gun laws are coming, probably state by state that will see us adopt the same laws in places such as Australia, and New Zealand.
    The process generally takes 40 – 50 years after the start of meaningful changes and it doesn’t matter what the subject.
    Slavery — Vermont abolishes slavery, and 40-some years later (1821), the polarization leading to the Civil War (another 40 years later) was in place.
    Abortion, Civil Rights, Drunk Driving, Gay Rights, name it and you’ll see the same cycle repeating.
    Once enough blood is spilt, the changes come.

    Oooh, Bowers Hill. Someday and soon, you may read the last story about a car turning in front of a truck.

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