DeSantis’s board overseeing Disney got their legs cut out from under them before they even had a chance.
And the idea that ““The 11th hour effort to undercut the will of Florida voters”… is really a stretch. The voters’ will wasn’t undercut. The DeSanctimonious one’s was.
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I don’t support DeSantis’s efforts to fight Disney.
Just let parents see the woke stuff Disney is up to and the marketplace will deal with it.
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RE: “I don’t support DeSantis’s efforts to fight Disney.”
In this case the fight looks legitimate. At issue is the governing authority of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District.
The District is a municipal area in Orlando that includes the Disney theme park and some residental real estate. At one time the company had sole authority over development within district, but Florida passed a law that now allows the governor to appoint the District’s board of supervisors. Before stepping down, Disney’s outgoing supervisors entered into a contract with the company that effectively gave back to the company board authorities that the new board expected to have but found out they didn’t.
DeSantis’s political fight with Disney over social issues has no real bearing on the issue at hand. The question is whether the outgoing board of supervisors acted legally and properly.
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I will be willing to bet that the Disney lawyers “acted legally and properly.” That is why they get the big bucks.
What was absolutely improper was DeSantis TRYING to use the power of the state to punish criticism. In typical MAGA style, it has been a fiasco from the word go. This legal maneuver by Disney is just the final embarrassment for DeSantis.
“In this case the fight looks legitimate.”
If a Democrat did anything remotely similar you, Tabor, Smith and other MAGATS would have your hair on fire and would not be looking for ways to make it seem somehow okay.
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RE: “What was absolutely improper was DeSantis TRYING to use the power of the state to punish criticism.”
Bull. The legislature made the law in question, not DeSantis.
RE: “If a Democrat did anything remotely similar you, Tabor, Smith and other MAGATS would have your hair on fire and would not be looking for ways to make it seem somehow okay.”
What would be similar?
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“Bull. The legislature made the law in question, not DeSantis.”
You are simply dumber than a bag of rocks. Of course it was DeSantis. Duh!
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RE: “Of course it was DeSantis. Duh!”
Are you smart enough to explain how?
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DeSantis said out loud that he wanted to punish Disney for their stance against his anti-gay bills. He asked the legislature to take care of that, and they did. They passed the bill he wanted and he signed it.
Simple enough for even you to understand. No semantics (that is the game you were playing, AGAIN!)
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“Are you smart enough to explain how?”
Because the Florida State Legislature does what he tells it to.
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RE: “Because the Florida State Legislature does what he tells it to.”
You mean there is no democracy in Florida?
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“You mean there is no democracy in Florida?”
Democracy in Florida and in many other places around the country has been subverted by GOP Gerrymandering and voter suppression. But whether there is or there isn’t, the attack on Disney is 100% the doing of DeSantis. Your disputing the well-established fact is odd but typical.
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RE: “the attack on Disney is 100% the doing of DeSantis.”
That’s simply false. If the legislature went along with DeSantis, it did so of its own free will.
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“What would be similar?”
Probably nothing because Democrats are much smarter than a mouse.
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“The question is whether the outgoing board of supervisors acted legally and properly.”
They did their job. Just like an outgoing legislature. They passed a slew of rules and entered into agreements that are legally binding and then handed the leys to the new board.
I see no impropriety or illegal actions in this.
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RE: “They did their job. Just like an outgoing legislature.”
Not really. Congress doesn’t operate that way. No Congress can “bind” a future Congress. This is why the first action of any new Congress is to vote the rules into place.
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“Not really.”
Yes really. No matter which party is on their way out, they make laws, pass budgets and put in place regulations that have to be followed by the next Congress. Or overturn them if possible.
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RE: “No matter which party is on their way out, they make laws, pass budgets and put in place regulations that have to be followed by the next Congress.”
You are missing the point. The District’s outgoing board of supervisors gave away authorities that the incoming board expected it would have. That’s the legal issue under debate.
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“The District’s outgoing board of supervisors gave away authorities that the incoming board expected it would have.”
Falls under the umbrella of “too bad, so sad”.
Their actions were NOT illegal.
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“You are missing the point.”
You may think so. But you would be mistaken. AGAIN!.
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RE: “Their actions were NOT illegal.”
And you know this, how? Why should we believe you?
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Disney has been inclusive for YEARS. It ain’t “woke” (damn the buzzwords fly off of your keyboard like geese soaring through the sky.). They want EVERYONE to come to their parks, watch their movies and buy their products, just like any other private company.
DeSantis could have just ignored Disney’s response to his anti-gay law, but he just had to get revenge. Show how strong he is (LOL!) to the MAGA base he knows he needs to court if he wants the nomination. His attempt at revenge against his state’s largest employer backfired. AND his new council has nothing to do.
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Disney chose to enter the political fray,
And it’s not an ‘anti-gay’ law, it’s a parental control law.
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“Disney chose to enter the political fray . . .”
Yes, so? Almost every corporation is in the “political fray.” Does that make it okay for the government to generate a Bill of Attainder to punish them for their opinions?
(“A Bill of Attainder is legislation that imposes punishment on a specific person or group of people without a judicial trial.” – Congress.gov)
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Is removal of a special status a punishment?
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If your dental license was removed because you are a Libertarian, would you consider that to be a punishment?
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License?
If I were being given a partial pass on my income taxes and after I meddled in politics I was required to pay taxes like every other dentist, would that be a punishment?
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A special status that has been in place for DECADES.
They did not “meddle in politics”. They spoke out against something they thought was unjust. First Amendment be damned if you criticize the emperor and his shiny white boots?
Yet how much revenue does Disney bring in to Florida’s coffers? They get a break on paying the state because they take care of their own needs and don’t require state funds to do so.
Now the state will be on the hook for maintaining good order and discipline, infrastructure, police and fire, etc. How efficient do YOU think that will be for the biggest money maker in the state?
You always say government should just get out of the way. In Florida, it just got IN the way. Because a private company thought ill of a governor’s action and spoke out about it. First Amendment come to mind?
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“Is removal of a special status a punishment?”
You want to play games or just acknowledge the truth?
Of course it was done as a punishment. That “special status” has been in place for more than 55 years and has been enormously beneficial to the state of Florida. There was not a good or valid reason to change it. And, there are about 1,800 special tax districts in Florida whose special arrangements were not attacked in this Bill of Attainder.
So, which is it? Word games or truth?
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Such special arrangements should never exist in the first place,
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“Such special arrangements should never exist in the first place”
Nice dodge. Not.
But they do. 1,800 of them in Florida.
If a Democratic governor took such punitive action against a company your hair would be on fire and you would not be shucking and jiving instead of condemning it. Can you never man up and just accept the truth? This action against Disney was a form of punishment and a form of intimidation to send a message to others who might dare challenge or criticize the governor.
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I am of the opinion that government should stay out of business, and business should stay out of government,
In no case should business have government powers.
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“In no case should business have government powers.”
Still shucking and jiving. This Bill of Attainder addressed 1 out of 1,800 special tax districts in Florida. There is zero chance it was about anything except punishing Disney. But obviously, you are unable to rise above your partisanship and condemn this abuse of the powers of the government. Sad.
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I didn’t say it wasn’t related.
But Disney made the choice to try t blackmail the legislature, They shold have expected push back
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…” blackmail ”
That is a crime. Do you have evidence that Disney committed such crime? Or are you just using scary words?
Fighting back against government injustice is a right enshrined in the Constitution. I thought for sure an originalist, such as yourself, would see through the smoke and realize that Disney was exercising its First Amendment rights. Those are now guaranteed by the Citizens United decision.
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I would agree that companies have the right to oppose laws they find unjust, but they cannot do so and expect to have special arrangements with the government.
That’s why they should not have such arrangements in the first place.
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…”they cannot do so and expect to have special arrangements with the government.”
Why not? The special arrangement had been in place for DEACDES. It is political vengeance alone to change it. And DeSantis even said that was what his law was doinig.
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“In no case should business have government powers.”
Then blame the Florida legislature that put that (and 1800+ ohters) in place throughout the state. And let me know when DeSantis decides to ask the legislature to take over those as well.
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Are any of the others threatening to campaign against members of the legislature?
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“Are any of the others threatening to campaign against members of the legislature?”
So, using the power of the state is okay if you are punishing a political opponent?
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No, it’s why there should not be preferential treatment, which can always be withdrawn.
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“No, it’s why there should not be preferential treatment, which can always be withdrawn.”
As a punishment and as a threat to others.
You just can’t man up and admit your new hero is abusing the power of the government far more directly and egregiously for political purposes than any Democrat since maybe Tammany Hall
If you are against inducements being made to attract business, this is the first time I have heard you making that complaint. Disney was given special powers over worthless virtually empty land in order to get them to invest billions. Which they did. Whether that was a good idea or not has nothing to do with DeSantis’s abuse of his position.
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Who knows. Even if they do, it is no reason to change things. I could cost the politicians even more.
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How about government stay out of our lives in general? Unless it is to tell parents how many kids they can have, what entertainment they can take them to, whether or not a woman has control of HER body.
Sounds to me that you are VERY selective about what government should involve themselves in.
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Government should exclude force and fraud, and that’s all. The problem comes from government getting involved in other things.
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…”getting involved in other things.”
You mean like our bedrooms and between doctors and patients?
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And schools
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“And schools”
Another conservative principle goes down the tubes. Aren’t schools are supposed to be controlled by local communities and not by outsiders. And now they aren’t. To fight “woke.” It is laughable.
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RE: “There was not a good or valid reason to change it.”
There was no good or valid reason not to change it. And, in any case, the state had the perfect and complete authority to do so.
Maybe, however, you expect all the people in the world to be guided solely by your thoughts.
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“But Disney made the choice to try t blackmail the legislature. . .”
What are you referring to?
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…” it’s a parental control law.”
It is a government control law. Allowing a minority of parents to say what ALL kids can or can’t say or do.
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RE: “DeSantis could have just ignored Disney’s response to his anti-gay law, but he just had to get revenge.”
DeSantis’s motives are completely irrelevant to the question at hand, unless you’re saying that the creation of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District was illegal. No one I’ve seen has taken that position.
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Never said the NEW oversight board for Disney’s region was illegal. The reasons were strictly in the name of political vengeance. Distasteful, but not illegal.
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Good. If not illegal, then irrelevant.
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Right. The actions by the outgoing board are irrelevant. Nice to see you come around to the truth for a change.
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The actions of the outgoing board are allegedly illegal.
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Allegations of legality concerning this, but Trump’s case does not get the same treatment from you.
Oh the huge hypocrisy!
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