She may be a socialist, but she speaks the right truth to power in the video. To save you a little trouble, here’s the lady’s entry at Wikipedia.
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Yeah, War is Hell.
And that is why Vladimir Putin is a war criminal. He started this war. He could end it tomorrow by giving up his dream of absorbing Ukraine and bringing his convicts and conscripts home.
This woman makes ME sick wrapping her Putin support – stopping the flow of weapons to resist his aggression – in a wrapper of peace. Who is SHE to tell the Ukrainians to give up on protecting their homeland?
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RE: “Who is SHE to tell the Ukrainians to give up on protecting their homeland?”
She is a provider of weapons.
Besides, she isn’t telling Ukrainians anything.
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Still willing to fight on to the last Ukrainian.
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Notice the inversion.
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Truth be told, the Ukrainians are willing to fight to the last Ukrainian.
Their hatred of Russians is based on a century of Soviet rule, Stalin’s slaughter of 4 million, and now the reneging of an agreement to recognize the borders along with wholesale destruction and war crimes on a grand scale.
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Then why are they sending draftees to the front with minimal training?
If it were a matter of freedom fighters holding off a feared enemy, it would not be necessary.
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Russians are pouring in prisoners and conscripts with little or no training. And little equipment. And it is their war of choice.
Ukraine is defending the homeland. Same as any nation would do.
Your point ?
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There are no good guys.
Both sides rely on conscripts. The idea that Ukrainians are valiantly rallying to the support of their homeland is a fantasy.
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Must be since you say so.
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“The idea that Ukrainians are valiantly rallying to the support of their homeland is a fantasy.”
If they were not doing exactly that, the war would have been lost a year ago. Duh!
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It is one thing to resort to the draft for foreign wars but when you have to draft soldiers to fight in your own borders, it is not a patriotic war.
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WW2 with German subs off our shores sinking ships , we had a draft. So those soldiers were not patriots?
Go to a reunion of the few survivors of WW2 and tell them what you think.
I will pull the BS card on your statement that defense of homeland does not need a draft.
And honestly, your aspersion that
Ukrainians are not patriots in their defense is a pretty telling insult. You insinuated that the gangs that attacked the Capitol on 1/6 were patriots, misguided perhaps, but patriots.
I am not sure you even understand real patriotism.
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I’m not sure you understand what war does to a country.
Sure, the leaders in Kiev may think it is a good idea, and I’m sure the spooks at Langley think it’s just peachy, but the people in Eastern Ukraine are seeing something different.
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Don, you are the man who wants to go to war with our government should it piss you off.
You, in my estimation, have no idea what war does to a country.
You are still fighting the Civil War, and you don’t know what war does?
Plus, who are you to say what the people in Ukraine see? Putin started an insurrection, and then sent his soldiers to add to the violence in Donbas. And you think the Ukrainians through their elected leadership should just roll over and become slaves to Imperial Russia.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Sell them out to suit your warped sense of patriotism as being fat Proud Boys dressing up as soldiers, but not people defending their homeland from a savage dictatorship.
Shameful and shortsighted in my view.
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“It is one thing to resort to the draft for foreign wars but when you have to draft soldiers to fight in your own borders, it is not a patriotic war.”
That is a nonsense standard if there ever was one.
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Really?
Would you fight an invasion of the US?
How about a US invasion of Mexico?
Not the same thing, are they?
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“I’m not sure you understand what war does to a country.”
I would bet on Len’s understanding over yours on ANY subject. Your condecension could not be more misplaced.
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Really?
Yes, really.
The fact that Ukraine is using a draft to fill the ranks does not mean that it is not a patriotic war.
Which country has people willing to fight and which has emptied its prisons? Which country is depending on mercenaries? Which country has specialist units to stop retreats with deadly gunfire?
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Aren’t they? If Mexico were to invade the US, then yes, I would return, if accepted to fight.
What is the reasoning behind the invasion of Mexico? Is it because the President didn’t provide political dirt on a political opponent of our resident?
The reasons matter, but it appears not to you.
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RE: “Truth be told, the Ukrainians are willing to fight to the last Ukrainian.”
Clare Daly, speaking in the video, doesn’t agree: “The Economist reports of forced recruitment across the country. Draftees with no experience or training are being sent to the front in what a UK Minister calls first world war levels of attrition. Casualty figures are secret but we know there are estimates of about a hundred and twenty thousand. Battalion commanders tell the Washington Post of recruits fleeing positions on mass. Politico reports a Crackdown on deserters. These are human beings and there is a shameful lack of empathy for ordinary people in the war rhetoric. In here the debate is about keeping the weapons flowing to keep the war going. Ukraine is burning through a generation of men. Sons, husbands, brothers, who can never be replaced.”
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Everything you quoted describes the plight of the Russian soldiers.
Exactly.
Enduring a savage invasion by a dictatorship 5 times as large is not going to be pretty.
You are saying that the Ukrainian people have no choice except to kneel down to King Putin. A little history lesson on the reasons that Ukraine won’t is good reading.
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RE: “Everything you quoted describes the plight of the Russian soldiers.”
Except she wasn’t talking about Russian soldiers. And, in any case, you are simply misinformed about the Russian military.
RE: “You are saying that the Ukrainian people have no choice except to kneel down to King Putin.”
Yes, unfortunately. The sooner we and they accept that Russia cannot be expelled from the territory they already hold, the sooner the bloodshed can end.
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“Except she wasn’t talking about Russian soldiers.”
Right out of the Trump/Putin playbook. Accuse the other side of what you yourself are doing.
“The sooner we”…
“We” do not make the decisions for the Ukrainian people. We DO support them.
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“Still willing to fight on to the last Ukrainian.”
If they want to fight we owe them our help. I have never said what they SHOULD do in the face of this criminal invasion. So you can shove your little insult up your ass where it belongs.
You, on the other hand have been very clear. We should stab them in the back and they should give up and let the fascist dictator dismember their country.
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RE: “If they want to fight we owe them our help.”
That is precisely the kind of thinking the lady in the video rails against.
Beyond that, there is no hope of expelling Russia from the Donbas or Crimea.
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“That is precisely the kind of thinking the lady in the video rails against.”
Yes, she does. Of course Russia is not trying to swallow her country nor has it killed hundreds of thousands of her people. But sure, she is railing against giving Ukraine the help they are begging for. I wonder if her Trotskyite past has anything to do with her helping Russia sieze Ukraine?
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RE: “I wonder if her Trotskyite past has anything to do with her helping Russia sieze Ukraine?”
Could be, but she’s not wrong.
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Yes, she is wrong.
The false premise of her error and yours is that there is no way for Ukraine to win. That false premise flies in the face of the reality so far. Russia is losing, destroying its military and its economy. Something has gotta give.
China is not going to bail them out – even if it could. China is happy to cash in on Russia’s sorry state. It is getting oil at a very substantial discount. But the reality is that China’s trading relationships with the United States, Europe, Japan, and South Korea are far more significant than anything Russia will ever have to offer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_China
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RE: “The false premise of her error and yours is that there is no way for Ukraine to win.”
Win or lose, there is no way to force Russia to leave the territory it already holds.
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“there is no way to force Russia to leave the territory it already holds.”
Actually, I believe there may be. Let some strong willed Russian assassinate Putin and install Navalny as President of Russia. I am NOT advocating such an action, jus stating that your “no way” is inaccurate.
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Why you do you propose a solution which you don’t advocate? Are you trying to say that an unworkable solution is workable?
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Just a little spit balling. And if I were to advocate for the assisanation of a world leader, you would berate me for that. It is workable. But not by the West. It has to be done internally in Russia.
You said there was no way to force Russia to leave. I say there is, but it leaves a bad taste in one’s mouth. I wouldn’t weep if it came to pass. But I think there may be several oligarchs in Moscow who might feel differently.
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That is a decision solely for the Ukrainians. Why do you insist on saying otherwise, except for your well documented hatred for Biden?
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RE: “That is a decision solely for the Ukrainians.”
Our part of Ukraine’s decision consists of giving them money, weapons and military support. We control our part, and I believe we should use our participation in the conflict to bring about peace.
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Then email your buddy in the Kremlin and tell him to pull ALL of his troops behind the recognized international borders of the sovereign nation he invaded.
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Do you think that would work?
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Left something out of my post. 😇
But if your willing to try, go for it. He’s your buddy, not mine.
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