Man in a green tutu and a woman with a painted handlebar mustache. Alert the Ministry of Vice and Virtue. Oh, the damage to the children at the festivities.
Shamrock marathon and “groomers”…Egad!
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I can’t scroll the link you sent so I can’t see the 2nd photo, but it doesn’t really matter. People have been wearing tutus and dressing as leprechauns a long time.
No one worries about it. If they show up in thongs and start twerking at children, that will be the time to get upset.
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Don’t start defending exceptions. The whole “grooming” thing is complete BS based on outrage and maybe, just maybe, some egregious anecdotal stories.
My post was obviously a tweak to the nose of the “righteous” right striking fear into the hearts of potential voters.
God, guns and gays…every election cycle, every time, over and over.
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No, your post is trivializing the sexualization of children, both in our schools and in entertainment.
It is not a subject for mirth.
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Don, mirth is better than incessant whining.
You think we have a grooming problem?
Let’s start with major religious sects like the Catholic and Southern Baptists. Many more destroyed lives or decades, even centuries, all protected by “religious rights”.
Yet the right protects that, or has until it reached unbearable stages.
Not much political hay, though. So we concentrate on issues that scapegoat “despicable” people who are not cookie cutter Republicans.
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Again, you can’t see past your partisanship to recognize a problem that all parties should be fighting.
If you think “Libs of TikTok” is tough on groomers, you should see “Gays against Groomers” They are absolutely vicious.
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My partisanship again?
I try to avoid the “dark web” wannabes. I see more of a problem with sacred institutions burying pedophilia in the name is religious sanctity. Or universities, or private schools, or the Boy Scouts. Tens of thousands more victims, and support by the powerful until it became too obvious. So the switch to “groomers”. The new shiny object for the gullible.
When Hannity got rid of Colmes, he made a habit and a fortune by bringing on the most extreme loonies on the left to overtalk and belittle. Your web sites are a subsidiary. Confirming your biases is so much more comforting, though.
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Pro tip.
You can be opposed to both religious organization pedophiles and Trans pedophiles, there is no conflict.
The religious pedophiles have been exposed and people are on guard. Trans pedophiles are new and very open about their desire to normalize the sexualization of children.
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“Pro tip.”
Here is one for you.
Don’t become a clueless parrot for every hate strategy that comes along.
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” Trans pedophiles are new”….
How new? Transpeople have been around for centuries. Are they only NOW becoming pedophiles to be feared because there are bad people in that community?
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The problem is that they, with the help of woke teachers and government officials are trying to normalize the sexualization of children,
The priests at least were ashamed.
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Priest ashamed? Not so much. They would move or be transferred and do it again. Even the Vatican covered it up. Authorities were not alerted. Above the law?
Major mess compared to a few liberals on TikTok or a few teachers spouting off.
The big surprise was admission by the Southern Baptist Convention doing the same thing, but on a smaller, national scale.
This is where the rot is. And conservatives don’t like it because it shoots holes in the “men of the cloth” and the sanctity of Christianity by being more concerned about the institution rather than the children. Add in the women’s gymnastic teams, major universities and private prep schools.
When the core of righteousness fails to protect children, it is more than a “damned shame”. It is a travesty. Masking it with some tales of grooming does not heal national scandals. Nor the victims.
IMO
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“. . . to normalize the sexualization of children”
What does that even mean? Sounds like more empty blather to me.
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The priests were not ashamed. They were moved to a new parish to continue their grooming and predatory actions.
You are STILL using the broad brush to paint all Trans people as groomers, and that is ugly and wrong. That would be like painting all dentists because of a bad experience with one.
And your continued use of WOKE only takes away from your argument. It is a word, that has been twisted by right wing glitterati to “own the Libs”. It has become just another buzzword.
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Nope, I specifically said that I did not think the majority of transexuals wanted to involve children, and I suggested they ally with Gays Against Groomers to make that clear.
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Painting an entire community with the same broad brush is what is you are attempting to do. Compare it to this: There are several different levels to taking a life. From involuntary manslaughter to capitol murder. Are they all the same? The only commonality is a life was lost.
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Nob ody protects pedophiles in churches, scouts or the YMCA. It is against the law and therefore prosecuted by g overnment. Groomers are indeed protected by liberals who want children to be sexualized in 1st grade when they should only be playing with hot wheels and barbie dolls. Why do you lefties think children should be exposed to anal sex and perversion at age 6?
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FYI
https://nypost.com/2014/02/05/un-vatican-allowed-rape-molestation-of-children/
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“Groomers are indeed protected by liberals who want children to be sexualized”
That comment just proves how full of shit you really are. Making statements like that with ZERO factual evidence is ignorant.
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“Nope, I specifically said that I did not think the majority of transexuals wanted to involve children, and I suggested they ally with Gays Against Groomers to make that clear.”
Maybe YOU should ally with Gays Against Groomers to make clear that YOU do not molest children. After all, YOU are in the most common demographic for child molestors – adult men.
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“No, your post is trivializing the sexualization of children,”
Cross dressing entertainers are way down the list of people “sexualizing children” – whatever that means. Somehow you don’t feel the need of the govenment to protect children in churchs, scout troops, little girl beauty pageants, etc. Have you ever been to a typical strip mall dance studio where very little girls are taught embarrassingly suggestive “jazz dances?” How about the government putting a stop to that? They should if this is really about “sexualizing children.” Of course it isn’t. Just warmed over MAGA hate in a different dress.
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Those are difficult. I agree that pageants and SOME dance studios are guilty of sexualization of children, The problem is that their parents have made that choice. I will do all I can to discourage that choice, but I don’t call on government to intervene.
Trans infiltration of schools is evading parent’s control and that is a political issue subject to regulation.
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“Trans infiltration of schools . . .”
What utter nonsense!
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Libs of TikTok and Gays against Groomers Twitter feeds are full of video examples.
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“Libs of TikTok and Gays against Groomers Twitter feeds are full of video examples.”
Well, alrighty then.
There is no evidence ANYWHERE that gay people, transgender people, cross dressing people, drag queens are more of a risk to children than”normal” heterosexual males. And plenty of evidence that they are less of a risk.
https://lgbpsychology.org/html/facts_molestation.html
https://www.zeroabuseproject.org/victim-assistance/jwrc/keep-kids-safe/sexuality-of-offenders/
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“Trans infiltration of schools “…
Where? How many? How often? How can you keep taking the time to find the limited number of these events to support your argument that ALL transpeople are to be feared?
I don’t recall Milton Berle being feared. He was beamed in the hoes of millions, dressed as a woman.
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Of course not all trans people are to be feared.
I would expect most would simply like to live their lives in peace. They should consider joining Gays Against Groomers, as those who do seek to sexualize children should be their enemies too.
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“…but I don’t call on government to intervene.”
But you applaud the government intervening if a parent decides to take a child to see a comedy revue with drag queens? Speaking of which, Governor DeSantis is taking away the liquor license of the Hyatt Regency Hotel in Miami because it hosted such a revue. The slightest hint of a Democrat even indirectly abrogating First Amendment rights sets your hair on fire. But when one of your peeps does it directly and crudely? Not so much.
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…” your post is trivializing the sexualization of children,”…
Such desperation from desperate people.
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The Pilot link doesn’t work for me.
On the general issue of “grooming,” I’d say it is a real problem. This should be obvious because people are talking about it.
Is it legitimate to complain about the public display of sexually perverse behavior? I think it is.
To oversimplify the matter, I’d note that children are like learning machines. It makes sense to try to control what they are exposed to because what they are exposed to affects what they learn. Further, I’d suggest that it is healthy for children to learn normalcy before they learn about deviance. Making deviant behavior “normal” as a matter of public exposure is child abuse.
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But fine in institutions like Boy Scouts, the Churches, universities, private schools?
After all, out of sight, out of mind worked for centuries in some cases.
And those children had no choice but to be raped and abused until they were screwed up for life.
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RE: “But fine in institutions like Boy Scouts, the Churches, universities, private schools?”
You make a false equivalence. Besides, do you not notice that you are concentrating on issues that scapegoat “despicable” people who are not cookie cutter Democrats?
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Huh?
False equivalance.
Screwing them behind the alter is certainly egregious grooming under threat of God given authority or institutional protection. Those children have lifelong problems.
Watching a cross dresser dance a comedy skit is not even remotely the same.
IMO
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RE: “Watching a cross dresser dance a comedy skit is not even remotely the same.”
You are the one who makes the connection, not me. You are the one creating the comparison. My comment had nothing to do with pedophile scandals, but focused solely on the legitimacy of “grooming” as an issue for people who care about how learning in childhood works.
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Those alter boys were groomed. A sex slave held in a perverted spiritual bondage.
That is about a real grooming for personal pleasure. What’s so egregious is they not only got away with it, but if a groomer were exposed, they just moved him around to various parishes. That is true perversion and the right laughs it off.
Protecting the institution was way more important than the lives of sex slaves.
But it seems to not fit the narrative of God, guns and gays.
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RE: “Those alter boys were groomed. A sex slave held in a perverted spiritual bondage.”
Do I need to say something insulting to get your attention? Is it really so hard for you to see that culture at large has “grooming” effects which make the issue a legitimate one to be concerned about?
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You are not paying attention. Even Don acquiesced that institutional grooming is at least on par with the “massive” 😇 grooming efforts by LBGTQ folks. But he says the first is resolved now. I disagree, but at least he admitted it.
“Culture at large”…are you serious?
Gun violence is a problem for culture at large. Racism, anti-Semitism, militia violence. These are affecting culture at large. Not a few TikTok videos.
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Maybe you better tell us what you think “grooming” means and what the government should do about it. It is starting to look like “grooming” is a word like “woke” with no actual referent when “conservatives” use it.
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RE: “Culture at large”…are you serious?”
Yes, of course. In fact, I recently shared an essay here by Scott Alexander which explores the relationship between culture and mental illnesses like anorexia and gender dysphorias. Here it is again:
https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/highlights-from-the-comments-on-geography
I find your dismissal of cultural grooming effects as “a few TikTok videos” rather shocking.
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Well excuse me for “shocking” you.
Concerning mental illness, religious based “conversion therapy” has screwed up more people than a cross dressing revue.
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RE: “Maybe you better tell us what you think ‘grooming’ means and what the government should do about it.”
Happy to, though I doubt you will find it helpful.
What I think it means; this is close enough:
“Of a paedophile: to befriend or influence (a child), now esp. via the Internet, in preparation for future sexual abuse.”
What the government should do about it:
Kill the groomers.
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That is exactly what the Catholic and other churches have been exposed to be doing.
Kill the priests?
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RE: “Kill the priests?”
Why do you ask? Maybe you are looking for permission to be a groomer yourself, since you are not a priest.
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Can you not go 24 hours without insults.
I guess not.
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You said you would kill the pedophiles. A priest raping alter boys fits that description and there were hundreds if not thousands worldwide.
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Idiotic comment.
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“Of a paedophile: to befriend or influence (a child), now esp. via the Internet, in preparation for future sexual abuse.”
Okay. Thanks. I believe that is a fair and precise meaning of the word. But it makes your claim that the culture at large is “grooming” children even more absurd.
Leaving aside your “final solution” for paedophiles, what should the government do about the culture at large?
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“Maybe you are looking for permission to be a groomer yourself, since you are not a priest.”
And maybe you ought to do a little self-editing when such a childish and uncivil thought gurgles to the top of the cesspool that is your mind.
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…”the legitimacy of “grooming” as an issue for people who care about how learning in childhood works.”
So in your world teaching acceptance of the differences in people should be discouraged. Jesus would disagree.
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“This should be obvious because people are talking about it.”
People are talking about it because idiots like Chris Rufo, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and the rest of the right wing glitterati are talking about it when there are so few REAL problem to talk about. And those fertilizer spreading dufusses make money off of it, while laughing at their audience for being stupid “cousin F*&^ers.”
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