President Biden reverses the federal government’s overreach under Trump. States are once again able to set their own vehicle emission standards. “Conservatives” SHOULD” applaud but I will not hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
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Yay.
California can now be the most stupid again.
I wonder if U-Haul has any electric moving trucks?
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“I wonder if U-Haul has any electric moving trucks?”
Probably not yet, but it will not be long before they do.
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By then, California will have no middle class. They will all be in Texas.
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I know it is an article of faith for government haters to dump on California but, as a matter of fact, California does very well. Manufacturing, agriculture, tech, services, entertainment – California has it all. And leads in every category. Sure, its amazing economic vitality has created problems such as congestion, high cost of living, crazy real estate prices, etc. That’s what happens when people migrate in the millions seeking opportunity.
https://bulloakcapital.com/blog/if-california-were-a-country/
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Also the highest poverty rate in the country.
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“Also the highest poverty rate in the country.”
It has the highest NUMBER of people living in poverty, but its official RATE according to U.S. Census data and definitions is nowhere near the worst. The highest poverty RATES pre-pandemic were mostly in the red states of the South. Mississippi and Louisiana have been the two poorest.
With that said, the statement is accurate if we stipulate that it also includes supplemental cost of living data.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/
California is a “land of opportunity” that has absorbed MILLIONS of impoverished people – legal and illegal. Few people seeking a better life for their children pull up stakes and head for Mississippi or Louisiana.
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“They will all be in Texas.”
And then Texas will become a Blue state; or maybe purple….
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You’re a boat guy, right? Concerned about towing? The numbers from the all electric F-150 and the Rivian are pretty good. Some of these electric vehicles look pretty nice.
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For some uses, yes.
But keep in mind that recharging requires 200 amp service, just for charging. Most houses only have 100 amp total. Most subdivisions have only sufficient capacity for no more than 20% of their residents to have chargers.
Further, refilling the tank on my Tahoe takes 5 minutes, recharging that F-150 takes 4 to 6 hours.
That said, if I had unlimited money, I’d have an electric for day to day shopping and such and a gasoline truck for high demand uses.
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“That said, if I had unlimited money…”
And that’s the rub. I do believe we need to do something to address the carbon we’re putting into the atmosphere, but I am also pretty offended by the idea that it is all of our individual responsibility. For the reasons you’ve pointed out, and others, a mostly electric vehicle US isn’t feasible absent MASSIVE infrastructure updates. Not holding my breath on that, which is unfortunate because I think this could be a good thing for the future. And I just think cars and vehicle innovations are cool.
No idea why, but you did not strike me as a Chevy guy.
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My wife bought the Tahoe. But my 1999 Grand Cherokee pulls my freshwater boats OK and the Tahoe pulls the saltwater boat better.
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The changeover to electric cars for most uses is a good idea, but the infrastructure and private upgrades can’t be rushed.
Over the next 30 years it can be done without too much disruption but it can’t be done in an election cycle without bankrupting us.
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Maybe not in an election cycle, but there’s no reason it should take 30 years either. And the US isn’t going to be bankrupted. We all know how quickly they can find money when they want to spend it on something.
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“But keep in mind that recharging requires 200 amp service, just for charging.”
Not exactly accurate. The service required is a function of the charger selected and the other uses of electricity in the home. A Level 2 charger rated at 32 Amps is quick, but there is no requirement that you charge at that level. A full charge overnight is achieved by charging at much lower levels. 16-amp systems are common.
Bottom line, 200 amp service is certainly desirable but not “required.”
But it is certain that our overall electrical infrastructure needs to be enhanced as we transition towards electric vehicles. Which, of course, is part of the Biden infrastructure program for the country that you have mocked.
https://www.energy.gov/articles/doe-launches-new-initiative-president-bidens-bipartisan-infrastructure-law-modernize#:~:text=Building%20a%20Better%20Grid%20will,zero%20emissions%20economy%20by%202050.
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In addition, charging in public is over the top expensive if you can even find a station. EV may be fine for round trips of no more than 200 miles but any farther you are out of luck or just screwed.
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Forgot to add link of EV charging costs.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.torquenews.com/1083/charging-electric-vehicle-public-can-cost-triple-what-fueling-gas-guzzler-does/amp
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You do realize that California, alone, has the sixth largest economy in the WORLD?
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And the highest poverty rate in the US.
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California boasts THE highest state poverty rate in the US, over 15%, only behind DC with over 16%. The Uber democrat states/District sure make more poor people.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/california-has-highest-poverty-level-in-the-us-census-bureau-2021-9%3famp
New York boasts the highest population decline migrating south.
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/New-York-State-saw-nation-s-third-highest-16767772.php
California is hemorrhaging population as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/california-population-loss-accelerated-during-pandemic-11639564203
People will only take but so much taxation, high costs and regulation that democrats foist on them before saying see ya later, bye.
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And when they get to Texas and Florida or wherever else they move to, and find the number of rights those states are attempting to take away from them, they could quite easily return. Or better yet, vote the anti-democratic, anti-women, pro-Trump idiots out of office.
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Can’t read due to paywall. Too bad the poster didn’t take the trouble to share the topic — whatever it is — in a way the rest of us could respond to.
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“ The Biden administration previously reversed another Trump-era policy, allowing states to adopt stronger emissions rules than the federal government. Fourteen states and the District of Columbia have voted to adopt the stricter standards set by California.”
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/586565-biden-administration-announces-final-rule-for-auto-emissions
I could not get the link to work either. But it was easy to find out what has happened. So here is another link you might be able to see.
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Thank you.
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I shared the item as news. The part that is available without a subscription conveys the news. I have often run into paywalls – such as at the WSJ – but unlike some, I try not to offer a hissy fit as a response.
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I imagine that was no mistake by the poster, Mr. Roberts.
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Your imagination is mistaken. Posts appear here all of the time that some cannot read.
Tin hat on aisle RE.
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