Indiana life insurance CEO says deaths are up 40% among people ages 18-64

Source: The Center Square.

The article says that the 40% increase in deaths is more improbable than a “one-in-200-year catastrophe.” The observation challenges many assumptions. What could be the cause?

It isn’t the Covid-19 virus. Covid-19 deaths in Indiana have declined by half over a year ago.

The death surge could be a consequence of the deferral of medical treatments that doctors warned about early in the pandemic. Because hospitals were swamped with Covid patients, much routine and elective care had to be postponed.

Another possibility is that lockdown policies resulted in biological and psychological consequences that degraded public health in a general way.

It is also possible — though debatable — that vaccine side effects have contributed to Indiana’s decline in overall public health.

Finally, the correlation of the death surge with the pandemic may be just a coincidence.

There are so many co-variant factors to contemplate that it will take careful study to account for Indiana’s experience. If insurance companies in the other 49 states have comparable reports, we should want to understand the event.

11 thoughts on “Indiana life insurance CEO says deaths are up 40% among people ages 18-64

  1. “Finally, the correlation of the death surge with the pandemic may be just a coincidence.”

    That seems extremely unlikely. Maybe the source cited in this story is a reliable source? What did he say?

    “What the data is showing to us is that the deaths that are being reported as COVID deaths greatly understate the actual death losses among working-age people from the pandemic.”

    Given that anything that does not violate the known laws of the universe is “possible” then it is “possible” that undiscovered side-effects of Covid vaccinations are killing off 18-64 year-olds at an alarming rate. But with absolutely zero evidence to support that “possible” cause, it is NOT debatable. It is nonsense. Why throw it out?

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    1. RE: “But with absolutely zero evidence to support that ‘possible’ cause, it is NOT debatable. It is nonsense. Why throw it out?”

      I pulled the link from a story by an author who has strong anti-vaxx views, but the story interests me for other reasons. As it happens, it is simply wrong to believe there is “zero evidence” for the proposition that Covid-19 vaccines are causing deaths. Why do you throw that out?

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      1. The comment I found to be nonsense seems to be YOUR thought, not that of the CEO cited in the story.

        I say that there is no evidence – ZERO – that the vaccines are causing deaths because – wait for it – there is no evidence that the Covid vaccines are causing deaths.

        https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/20/facebook-posts/no-evidence-covid-19-vaccines-causing-deaths/

        Lying liars take VAERS reports of deaths as evidence even though the CDC follows them up and finds no causation.

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        1. RE: “I say that there is no evidence – ZERO – that the vaccines are causing deaths because – wait for it – there is no evidence that the Covid vaccines are causing deaths.”

          And you have Politifact to prove it. Big deal.

          I recommend you read this article about the meaning of the phrase “no evidence”:

          https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/the-phrase-no-evidence-is-a-red-flag

          I’m not interested in trying to prove that Covid vaccines kill some people, so I have nothing to add to the observation that your statement (and Politifact’s) is ignorant. To see why, read the link.

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          1. “And you have Politifact to prove it. Big deal.”

            Uh, Politifact cited the scientists at the CDC who looked for evidence of the vaccines causing the 7,000 or so VAERS reported deaths. They found none and that is what they reported. That is what “no evidence” means. My statement was not “ignorant.” It was the simple truth.

            Speaking of “ignorant,” the article you linked to is MONUMENTALLY dumb. IMHO. It boils down to the asserting that the Trump standard of truth – “Some people are saying” is as valid as rigorous empirical science. It isn’t. Not even close.

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          2. RE: “Uh, Politifact cited the scientists at the CDC who looked for evidence of the vaccines causing the 7,000 or so VAERS reported deaths. They found none and that is what they reported. That is what ‘no evidence’ means.”

            Yes, of course: One agent looking at one dataset proves there is “no evidence” universally.

            RE: “Speaking of ‘ignorant,’ the article you linked to is MONUMENTALLY dumb.”

            If you say so.

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  2. …”that vaccine side effects have contributed to Indiana’s decline in overall public health.”

    Most of your post was interesting. However, the part I quoted, has been debunked time and time again. No debate really required any more, on that particular point.

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  3. Fairly early on it became evident that COVID infections were also causing some organ damage other than just a respiratory issue. Someone that contracted COVID, recovered, then suffered kidney failure 6 months later might not be diagnosed as COVID.

    Some long haulers describe fatigue so debilitating they can hardly get around the house. This even months after recovery.

    Either of those scenarios could cause premature deaths.

    Bottom line: I think it would be hard to attribute this rise in deaths as anything other than COVID related, directly or indirectly. The indirectly part perhaps exacerbated by the inability to get some life saving elective surgeries. Or the stress of evictions and debt. Debt from medical care in instances of being under or uninsured.

    In my opinion, of course.

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    1. RE: “Bottom line: I think it would be hard to attribute this rise in deaths as anything other than COVID related, directly or indirectly.”

      That makes sense. It fascinates me that “COVID related” is a category of almost infinite size.

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  4. I came across this little tidbit concerning the Insurance Company CEO’s comments and what someone told Steve Bannon on his podcast.

    “Kirsch has the answer:

    “The only thing that fits is that the vaccines are causing these excess deaths.”

    This is so obviously idiotic that even Bannon has to take a step off the bus. He gently counters that maybe COVID-19, and not the vaccine, is responsible for this increase in claims.

    Kirsch assures him it’s the vaccines.”

    Blaming the vaccines for an increased death rate is almost as idiotic as anything else I have seen.
    At least Bannon stood up to Mr. Kirsch and threw the BS flag on the idea.

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