Trump’s legacy : Death

A very significant portion of Americans do not intend to get the Covid-19 vaccination. Their stupid and selfish decisions will unnecessarily prolong the pandemic, give the virus more opportunities to mutate into a more dangerous form and keep herd immunity from being ever being achieved.

One group stands out in this crowd of idiots – White Evangelical Protestants of whom 45% plan to “Just say No” to vaccination. These WEPs have been Trump’s greatest supporters and are now the protectors of his legacy of death. 555,000 and counting.

As a country we need to motivate such people to do the right thing. Since they will not follow the science and are not open to persuasion, we need to have “proof of vaccination” as a requirement for air travel, border crossings, public-facing work like teaching, etc. Maybe that will help them see the light?

32 thoughts on “Trump’s legacy : Death

  1. RE: “Their…decisions will unnecessarily prolong the pandemic, give the virus more opportunities to mutate into a more dangerous form and keep herd immunity from being ever being achieved.”

    So much falsehood. Here’s the truth:

    a) The pandemic is already subsiding due to a combination of natural and vaccine-based immunity.

    b) Viruses don’t normally mutate into more dangerous forms.

    c) Natural herd immunity would eventually occur even if vaccines were not available.

    The “stupid and selfish” among us are those who demand so-called vaccine passports.

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    1. You seem to take “stupid and selfish” personally. Not going to get vaccinated?

      There are no falsehoods in my post.

      (a – The pandemic has been going through cycles. The current wave is, indeed, receding but public health experts see us in a race to get enough vaccinations done to head off the next wave. It will not just go away by magic.

      (b – Viruses mutate all the time. The more in circulation, the more opportunity for that to occur. Those mutations CAN make the virus more dangerous, more contagious or both. We have already seen that happening with several troublesome variants already being spread.

      (c – We can get to herd immunity (if that is possible with so many mutations happening) by means of sickness and death or by means of widespread vaccination. Unless you are some sort of stupid and selfish idiot, the second method is preferable.

      Barring medical or allergy obstacles, there is no good reason to not get vaccinated. It is stupid and selfish to refuse. Stupid because you are risking your health for no good reason. Selfish because you put other peope at risk for no good reason.

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      1. Your statements don’t refute anything I said. They only rationalize the fear and loathing you seem compelled to inspire.

        Getting vaccinated is the most any person can do to stop the pandemic, but there is no moral or scientific basis for making vaccination a requirement for social interaction.

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        1. You are really and truly a master of goofy obtuseness.

          You say the pandemic is ending. It isn’t.

          You say virus mutations are not dangerous. They are.

          You say herd immunity will happen anyway. Maybe, if we let many, many millions of people sicken and hundreds of thousands more die.

          The “moral and scientific” reason for requiring vaccination for certain social interactions is crystal clear – vaccination is the only way – short of mass casualties – to end the pandemic. If people will not help out of stupid ignorance maybe they will help in order to be able to fly in a plane or attend a concert.

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          1. RE: “The ‘moral and scientific’ reason for requiring vaccination for certain social interactions is crystal clear – vaccination is the only way – short of mass casualties – to end the pandemic.”

            The common cold is a pandemic. My own grandfather died of it. If your reasoning had merit, we should require vaccine passports for the common cold.

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    2. “The pandemic is already subsiding due to a combination of natural and vaccine-based immunity.”

      You wanna check the numbers in Michigan? And also some other areas showing upticks after college students did the spring break thing in Florida?

      “Viruses don’t normally mutate into more dangerous forms.”

      The UK variant has been proven to be more transmissible. Which in itself makes it more dangerous.

      “Natural herd immunity would eventually occur even if vaccines were not available.”

      How much herd immunity is there for the flu? And how many more would have to die before herd immunity is achieved without the vaccines?

      Your “truth” is more anti-vaccine blather meant to cause confusion. Those of us who actually believe the REAL truth know that vaccines are the best and most efficient way to the other end of the pandemic.

      The stupid and selfish are the ones saying that #LIBERATE is more important than public health AND the economy.

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      1. RE: “How much herd immunity is there for the flu?”

        Good question. Perhaps we should have vaccine passports for the flu, as well. Or for mumps, measles and chicken pox.

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          1. About 600,000 people dies of heart disease each year in the U.S. Why do you not propose to require them to share private health information with strangers in order to socialize?

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          2. “About 600,000 people . . .”

            Hmmm. Tough question. Let me think about it. Okay. I think I have it.

            Heart disease is not contagious. Covid-19 is.

            BTW, “Private health information? Really? Proof of vaccination says NOTHING about ANY aspect of your health other than that you are very likely to not be a spreader of this particular virus.

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        1. Challenge apparently met because you only asked about the flu.

          As for the other three diseases you mentioned, shot records are required for enrollment in school. hmmm.

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    1. “He’s gone. Move on.”

      I wish that were true but it is not. He is returning to his messaging of hate and division. For example, compare and contrast these messages for the most sacred day of the Christian calendar.

      Biden: “We share the sentiments of Pope Francis who said that getting vaccinated is a moral obligation, one that can save your life and the lives of others. By getting vaccinated and encouraging your congregations and your communities to get vaccinated, we not only can beat this virus, we can also hasten the day when we can celebrate the holidays together.”

      Trump: “Happy Easter to ALL including the Radical Left CRAZIES who rigged our Presidential Election, and want to destroy our Country!”

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/04/trump-wishes-happy-easter-to-radical-left-crazies

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  2. What does this have to do with Trump? Will we hold Biden/Harris accountable for every wrongdoing committed by a presumed Biden supporter?

    Remember that it was Trump who pushed for a quick vaccine when the experts said it would take years, and that every single dose of vaccine administered thus far in the US was ordered by Trump.

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    1. “… Trump who pushed for a quick vaccine when the experts said it would take years…”

      The technology was in the works for years before the pandemic. What Trump did was push financial guarantees to buy vaccines and take the normal financial risk out of vaccines that are not moneymakers like cholesterol or ED drugs.

      Just like other major countries which did the same thing.

      Dr. Birx said Trump’s actions or lack of probably cost 100’s of thousands of lives. So there is a lot more than just OWS.

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        1. Dr. Brix’s comments have been widely reported. Here is one story about them . . .

          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/28/deborah-birx-most-covid-19-deaths-after-first-100-000-were-avoidable/7037470002/

          She is not getting a lot of sympathy. Trump cultists see her as a traitor. Most other people think that the time to speak forcefully is not now. It was then – when the truth could have saved many of those lives.

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          1. She didn’t say that that those after the first 100K could have been prevented, she said they could have been “mitigated or reduced” and does not say by how much.

            Sure, everyone could have been ordered to stay in their homes and starved to death instead of dying of COVID.

            When you have only one variable to consider, things are really simple.

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          1. Cost? Probably less than the trillions we spent trying to save lives and shore up the economy. (On top of the trillions spent for tax cuts.)

            Birx was a dutiful staffer for Trump. She bit her lip, stayed out of the fray as much as she could. Until she couldn’t. But we know what happens to Trump loyalists when he is through using them.

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      1. Of course technology existed to create vaccines but a vaccine had not been created. It was created at warp speed far sooner the most hopeful expected. No matter how it was done, all that you see now was done under the Trump administration with not a lick of Biden influence but his self aggrandizing baton spinning. Spin it all you want but Trump led the entire vaccination success we have now.

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        1. So, BobR, we need the government to make good things happen? What ever happened to the private sector and individual enterprise? People with the technology and knowledge to produce vaccine would have done nothing or waited for years without Trump’s leadership?

          Trick question. The answer is NO. As soon as the virus DNA was available, people in labs and universities all over the world got to work on producing a vaccine. Literally the next day. Trump taking ANY credit for the success of these scientists is akin to a rooster taking credit for the sunrise.

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        2. mRNA development was in the pipeline for other COVID type vaccines. Once the virus NNA was released, the development began.

          Thank you Mr. T**** for pushing them harder. But no thanks for the lies about the disease from the beginning.

          T**** didn’t lead anything except the parade of lies he fed us and the world (which you ate right up like the good little lapdog you are). HE gets credit for what little he did. But he also has to take responsibility for what little he did. Except of course for all of the lies. That wasn’t little at all.

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    2. “What does this have to do with Trump?”

      Uh, everything. He spent most of 2020 lying about the virus, how dangerous it is, how easily curable, etc. Worse, he made following the best available measures – mask wearing and social distancing – signs of apostasy within his cult. He even did his best to undermine state lead efforts to fight the spread with his criminal #LIBERATE messaging.

      Analyses of why Trump supporters resist vaccination find that it stems from the distrust of science and scientists in general that he inculcated. And with respect to the pandemic he was particularly harsh in his denunciations of the scientists who we are now asking people to believe.

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    3. ” . . . when the experts said it would take years”

      You say that a lot apparently because Trump says it a lot. So truthy! But is it true. Which experts said it would take years to develop a vaccine for Covid-19. That smacks of yet another Trump lie or – as you like to say – hyperbole.

      If someone who actually is to be cited as an “expert” said that, then he or she was no expert. Several different approaches yielded workable vaccines in months and Trump had absolutely nothing to do with any of that work.

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    4. ” Will we hold Biden/Harris accountable for every wrongdoing committed by a presumed Biden supporter?”

      You gave T**** ALL of the credit for the economy after Obama got the ball rolling. Slowly, but he started in a much deeper hole. Obama’s economy got juiced, but not overhauled by his follower.

      But you keep picking the little “truths” you want to hang on to. I’ll keep pointing out how you distort things and the hypocrisy of your statements.

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    1. Sure, but note that when I previewed this before publishing the link was shown as a link. Only after publishing did it get expanded to show the table. And, for some reason, it got expanded twice.

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  3. “By how much and at what cost?”

    Impossible to be precise, but a significant portion of those 555,000 deaths (so far) could have been avoided by a very vigorous requirement that high quality masks be worn in ALL public locations. The cost to the economy would not have been any worse than the off again on again half-measures that we applied sporadically on Trump’s watch.

    Trump’s criminal response to public safety efforts by other leaders? #LIBERATE.

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