19 thoughts on “Here is something for you lovers of the free market to yowl about. Or not.

  1. My goodness, # LIBERATE just lives on and on. Kinda like the odor of a rotting rat corpse under the house.

    So now a business cannot screen for vaccinated customers in order to keep its employees safe. So much for government staying out of the affairs of free market capitalism.

    Let the customers decide. If the sign requires a vaccine passport or masks and you don’t like that, move on to the competition. And yet, if you do want to patronize a “COVID free zones” by virtue of restrictions for patrons during a pandemic, you are prohibited from knowing.

    Big Brother is alive and well among some right wing governors by forbidding localities to decide how to best protect their citizens. Pandering to the Trump cult in the hopes of improved political futures is a popular sport evidently.

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  2. Desantis proving he cannot be fixed daily. So, simple get around, “No shoes, no shots, no service,” and tell them it’s you religious belief.

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        1. You might want to figure out what you are talking about before making such ignorant comments. No, phony girl wannabes will never bite me nor anything else, just ask me.

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          1. Well, better latent than never I always say.

            On a restroom stall, “My mother made me a homosexual.”
            Written beneath, “If I buy the wool, will she knit one for me?”

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  3. From the source article: “the Florida governor’s order claimed ‘requiring so-called Covid-19 vaccine passports for taking part in everyday life – such as attending a sporting event, patronizing a restaurant or going to a movie theater – would create two classes of citizens’.”

    That’s exactly right.

    Vaccinated people have immunity; they don’t need additional protection from anyone who might be a spreader of the virus.

    Conversely, vaccine passports might protect non-immune people from becoming infected, but only by excluding them (imperfectly) from having social contact with vaccinated people.

    In other words, the privileges a vaccine passport confers are unnecessary for vaccinated people and are denied to unvaccinated people on an arbitrary basis. Systemically, the passport introduces artificial discrimination.

    This might be acceptable if there were reason to expect a significant public health benefit, such as reducing transmission of the disease. With Covid, however, there is no good reason to expect that vaccine passports will reduce transmission, since immune people apparently can still be spreaders and because passport restrictions would only affect a fraction of social interactions between the immune and non-immune groups anyway.

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    1. You are dodging the point which is the massive hypocrisy of “conservatives” in general and Trumpkins like DeSantis in particular. If the “free market” knows best, why is DeSantis dictating to business owners about the policies they must follow in their businesses?

      You think this is a good decision and that makes it okay for the government to give this order but when wearing masks was a good decision it was not okay for the government to require them?

      By the way, even the fully vaccinated are put at risk by the foolish and selfish behavior of those who refuse to get vaccinated. There are enough such people to forestall achieving herd immunity and therefore giving the virus a pool to swim in and countless more opportunities to mutate in such a way as to by-pass existing immunities.

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      1. RE: “You are dodging the point which is the massive hypocrisy of ‘conservatives’ in general and Trumpkins like DeSantis in particular.”

        The “point” doesn’t exist, except in your imagination.

        Desantis apparently recognizes that vaccine passports have little legitimacy as a matter of science, but would have large, undesirable consequences as a matter of politics.

        As for mask mandates, they were never a good decision.

        RE: “By the way, even the fully vaccinated are put at risk by the foolish and selfish behavior of those who refuse to get vaccinated.”

        Is that a fact? Then why bother to get vaccinated?

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        1. “Is that a fact? Then why bother to get vaccinated?”

          Yeah, I get it. The idea that there are degrees of risk – not just black and white – is way too hard for someone wired like you to understand. Anyone who thinks a vaccination removes ALL risk is just stupid. Just not as stupid as those who (like you?) will not get it done.

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          1. Is ad hominem all you got?

            I’m happy to talk about gray areas of risk. The general rule is that vaccination confers immunity from illness, although it may not confer immunity against infection or transmission. I addressed this when I noted that immune people may still be spreaders of Covid. The challenge is for you to explain how vaccine passports would be an effective public policy in light of this slightly gray risk area.

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          2. …”although it may not confer immunity against infection or transmission”…

            Actually, Don pointed out the other day that there are indications now that vaccinated people are NOT spreading the virus.

            You’re getting behind onfacts.

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          3. Is ad hominem all you got?

            Uh, I reacted to a really stupid remark. If you do not like such reactions then stop making stupid remarks. Stupid remarks in defense of the stupid, selfish people who endanger us all by avoiding the vaccinations that are essential to a achieve herd immunity and dampen the growth of the virus and its many dangerous variants.

            Since you keep dodging the question let me ask it bluntly – have you been vaccinated? If not, why not?

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          4. The stupid remark was made by you: ““By the way, even the fully vaccinated are put at risk by the foolish and selfish behavior of those who refuse to get vaccinated.”

            And when challenged to explain it, you couldn’t.

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