HCQ study was a scam

MedXpress: Lancet study questioned.

So much for peer review.

The  study on which the WHO discontinued research on HCQ was written by a science fiction writer and an adult film performer, neither with any training in epidemiology. with cherry picked data. Yet it got through the Lancet’s peer review until questions were raised by other researchers.

FWIW, I am uninterested in any HCQ study that is not conducted on patients treated early in the disease. It has already been established that when patients are already at death’s door it is too late for it to be of use.

8 thoughts on “HCQ study was a scam

  1. Saw a report this morning that the WHO is restarting the research.

    I have seen some reporting that as a preventative, HCQ is not effective either. But I believe those are just preliminary findings and not fully reported out or reviewed.

    Have to agree with your FWIW statement. Again.

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  2. Scam?

    “The coronavirus crisis has put enormous strain on the normally sedate system of scientific publication, with an avalanche of research and the process of peer review considerably accelerated.”

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-05-scientists-hydroxychloroquine.html

    “ The study’s authors, led by Mandeep Mehra of the Brigham and Women’s Hospital in the US, looked at data from hundreds of hospitals between December and April and compared those who received treatment with a control group.

    It followed numerous smaller studies that suggested hydroxychloroquine is ineffective in treating COVID-19 and might even be more dangerous than doing nothing.”

    Where did you get the info about the study’s authors being a science fiction writer and an adult film actor?

    I think the rush to find something, anything is putting standard review processes in a bind.

    That being said, I have yet to see a study that says HCQ is effective. Maybe like you suggest, they need to look at HCQ as an earlier intervention.

    And maybe someone already has and it flopped.

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      1. Gosh, same story with a political agenda.

        Who to believe? Red State or Medexpress.

        Try The Guardian, which is linked in the Red State article and is much more exhaustive and informational than either Red State or Med Express.

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/03/covid-19-surgisphere-who-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine

        “Brigham and Women’s Hospital, the institution affiliated with the hydroxychloroquine study and its lead author, Mandeep Mehra, said in a statement: “Independent of Surgisphere, the remaining co-authors of the recent studies published in The Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine have initiated independent reviews of the data used in both papers after learning of the concerns that have been raised about the reliability of the database”.

        So I guess we continue on with studies.

        I could not find a motive for the supposed study. Money Is usually a good starting point. But how?

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          1. Politics a motive?

            Certainly. It was the motive for buying millions of HCQ pills on the flimsiest evidence. If this study is bogus it doesn’t change the other limited studies which were not encouraging.

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          2. And again, were Tamiflu tested against the regular flu, by administering it to hospitalized patients at deaths door, it would fail those studies as well. But given in the first two days of symptoms, Tamiflu has kept tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, from getting sick enough to get into the hospital.

            The observational studies of early use of HCQ are very encouraging, but it is almost impossible to do a double blind study of people who take an outpatient drug and never get sick enough to call their doctor again.

            So, if you know where those millions of HCQ pills are, get me a hundred or so.

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          3. …” it is almost impossible to do a double blind study of people who take an outpatient drug and never get sick enough to call their doctor again.”

            Easy solution for that. Pay those a small stipend for their participation in the study. It is done all of the time when testing new drugs, including locally.

            …”if you know where those millions of HCQ pills are”…

            Israel purchased several million doses. A visit to the Holy Land would be good for the soul.

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