If they’re expressing their opinions, even loudly and angrily, they’re protestors, but if they’re destroying property or injuring people they’re rioters and if they’re stealing property, they’re looters.
It may be time to amend our use of deadly force laws to include defense of property.
I am a former Chairman of the Tidewater Libertarian Party and was the 2007 LP candidate for the 14th district VA Senate. Previously, I was the Volunteer State Director for the FairTax. I am married 50 years with two grown children and 5 grandchildren.
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It is unfair of you to classify ALL of the protesters as the issue. There are bad actors that are taking advantage of the situation. And not just here, bit all over the country I will not speculate if they are ANTIFA or white supremacists or “boogaloo bois”, as we do not yet know precisely who they. But if your classification is of ALL, as it appears to be, then you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
“But if your classification is of ALL, as it appears to be, then you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.” Please show me where in Dr. Tabor’s post he uses or implies that “all” the protesters are the issue. You’re attempting to put words into his post that don’t exist. Well, I guess in your mind they do.
“It may be time to amend our use of deadly force laws to include defense of property.”
I may have overstepped with my “all” classification. Mea culpa.
However, this is overboard. There are proper applications of deadly force, but defense of property does not fall under those and neither should they -IMO.
People who riot and loot should, by all means, be prosecuted under the law. But rhetoric such as this only fuels the fires of what is going on. …”when the looting starts, the shooting starts”.. has some bad racist ju-ju behind it and should not have been invoked by POTUS, even though he tried to explain it away.
The big issue that has been lost in all of this is the WHY it all started. Another unarmed black man killed by a cop. For forgery? While in handcuffs?
Target didn’t kill him. Neither did any of the small businesses ransacked in VA Beach last night.
In a very real sense, your property represents a portion of your life that you expended to earn it. So, defending your property is defending a part of your life.
But keep in mind that guarding property includes the use of deadly force if the looters are not deterred. Once you stand out front of that store armed, you have crossed the Rubicon.
But I wonder what happens of one of the black males opens fire on a looter. It’s already been shown that white people protesting shut down orders with guns are NOT pushed back or attacked in the same way some of these protesters have been.
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It is unfair of you to classify ALL of the protesters as the issue. There are bad actors that are taking advantage of the situation. And not just here, bit all over the country I will not speculate if they are ANTIFA or white supremacists or “boogaloo bois”, as we do not yet know precisely who they. But if your classification is of ALL, as it appears to be, then you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
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Where did I say all?
I provided a system for classifying them. (Hint, the ones carrying the merchandise are the looters. )
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I stand corrected.
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“But if your classification is of ALL, as it appears to be, then you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.” Please show me where in Dr. Tabor’s post he uses or implies that “all” the protesters are the issue. You’re attempting to put words into his post that don’t exist. Well, I guess in your mind they do.
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See my answer to Don’s defense.
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“It may be time to amend our use of deadly force laws to include defense of property.”
I may have overstepped with my “all” classification. Mea culpa.
However, this is overboard. There are proper applications of deadly force, but defense of property does not fall under those and neither should they -IMO.
People who riot and loot should, by all means, be prosecuted under the law. But rhetoric such as this only fuels the fires of what is going on. …”when the looting starts, the shooting starts”.. has some bad racist ju-ju behind it and should not have been invoked by POTUS, even though he tried to explain it away.
The big issue that has been lost in all of this is the WHY it all started. Another unarmed black man killed by a cop. For forgery? While in handcuffs?
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Target didn’t kill him. Neither did any of the small businesses ransacked in VA Beach last night.
In a very real sense, your property represents a portion of your life that you expended to earn it. So, defending your property is defending a part of your life.
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I’m sorry, but I disagree with the idea of extra-judicial killing in the name of something replaceable.
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The time I spent earning my property is not replaceable
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But the property itself is. To equate replaceable property with irreplaceable life is asinine. -IMO
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Don, Your take please:
https://reason.com/2020/05/29/black-civilians-arm-themselves-to-protest-racial-violence-and-protect-black-owned-businesses/?itm_source=parsely-api
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Good for them. I would willingly help them guard their property and would welcome their help in protecting mine.
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But keep in mind that guarding property includes the use of deadly force if the looters are not deterred. Once you stand out front of that store armed, you have crossed the Rubicon.
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But I wonder what happens of one of the black males opens fire on a looter. It’s already been shown that white people protesting shut down orders with guns are NOT pushed back or attacked in the same way some of these protesters have been.
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