Where is the respect for law enforcement?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/michigan-security-guard-mask-killing-trnd/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/social-distancing-ranger-pushing-lake-covid-19-trnd/index.html

Two incidents where people were not doing what they are supposed to be doing and RESPECTFULLY asked by LE to please follow orders.

I know we are all frustrated at not having our normal lives. But for cryin’ out loud. Shooting a security guard in the head for reminding someone to put on a mask per the states orders and shoving a park ranger into a lake for asking people to disperse and move away from where they were illegally congregated is ridiculous and dangerous.

We have to be better than this, folks.

Even Hannity told the Michigan protesters that carrying long guns into the State Capitol is bad form. (I do wonder why he didn’t say anything when people were protesting in VA with long guns and other firearms brandished. But that is a different story.)

24 thoughts on “Where is the respect for law enforcement?

  1. It’s not just a matter of disrespect for law enforcement, it’s disrespect for civilization itself.

    But first to answer your question about the appropriateness of long guns at a protest. When protesting proposed laws limiting firearms rights, demonstrating that people can be armed and yet do no harm is a form of speech in itself. They were showing that people could peacefully possess and carry them, but at other protests they are not relevant and thus intimidation.

    Sort of like women going topless at a protest over closing a nude beach would be appropriate but not at a school board meeting.

    Now, violence toward those enforcing infectious disease precautions is just plain irrational and inexcusable.

    I had a LTE on that topic last week

    LTE 4/45

    People are angry about the hardships necessary the protect the vulnerable among us and somehow masks, which are at most an inconvenience and not a hardship, have become a symbol for that anger.

    I guess it is the result of using the power of government for things where persuasion is a better tool.

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    1. “They were showing that people could peacefully possess and carry them,”…

      You left out the intimidation factor of 6,000 ARMED protesters. Sure, the Virginia protesters remained peaceful. But all it would have taken was one (or three as was planned) idiot(s) to turn the protest into a blood bath.

      But I guess assaulting members of the opposition party is OK in your playbook.

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    2. RE: “Now, violence toward those enforcing infectious disease precautions is just plain irrational and inexcusable.”

      I take the point, but I don’t agree with it categorically. I’m more of the view that the Constitution doesn’t contain any form of infectious disease exemption.

      I think your other observation is the more fundamental one: “I guess it [the open carry at lockdown protests] is the result of using the power of government for things where persuasion is a better tool.”

      That some protestors feel threatenned enough to arm themselves as they have done suggests to me that Covid-19 and the lockdown orders are only part of something larger.

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        1. RE: “You really need to stop with your tin-hat conspiracy inferences.”

          What conspiracy are you inferring?

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          1. RE: “If that ain’t conspiracy, I don’t know what is.”

            I see what you mean. Should the citizens of a constitutional republic imagine that their civil rights are being violated, then they must be wacko conspiracy theorists.

            Nothing to see here. Just hunt the witches.

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          2. Saying that the global pandemic a LIFE SAVING lockdowns are part of “something larger” is the epitome of conspiracy. It is you who is hunting for witches.

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      1. “That some protestors feel threatenned enough to arm themselves as they have done suggests to me that Covid-19 and the lockdown orders are only part of something larger.”

        The Michigan protester in question walked into the State House heavily armed. Where they feeling threatened by a potential paper cut?

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      2. “That some protestors feel threatenned enough to arm themselves as they have done suggests to me that Covid-19 and the lockdown orders are only part of something larger.“

        You’re an idiot….

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        1. RE: “You’re an idiot…”

          Your support for the spirit of open and inclusive discussion is essential to the success of Tidewater Forum.

          Please review the rules for posting linked at the top of the main page of Tidewater Forum, particularly the warning, “No spam or advertising, be civil, personal insults and ad hominem attacks will not be tolerated.”

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      3. One of the images from inside the crowded statehouse in Michigan showed a bearded man screaming in the face of a stoic, masked state trooper. The screamer was reminiscent of of a Marine DI and he was yelling at a recruit so the spittle would land on his face.

        Considering the current pandemic, I think that protestor should be arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon until the fate of the trooper is known.

        So in a sense, the protestors were armed. Carrying guns into the statehouse was nothing more than a threat of physical harm to the police and government workers.

        As someone commented elsewhere, I imagine that if BLM protestors stormed any statehouse, armed and screaming, the bloodshed would have been pretty bad.

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        1. “Considering the current pandemic, I think that protestor should be arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon”…

          Didn’t they do that during the height of the AIDS epidemic? Lock up gay men for spitting on others?

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      4. Remember that what applies here is the State, not the Federal, Constitution, unless a governor is violating your rights.

        The powers of the governor, and state legislatures are wider than the powers of the Federal government.

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    3. …”using the power of government for things where persuasion is a better tool.”

      So who is going to do the persuading if not parts of the government, be it state or federal? Like you said elsewhere, “If people are good, why do we need government?” Or words to that effect.

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    1. His lawyer said he wasn’t sure how his client would plea. Maybe a good lawyer, but the video is pretty fucking clear. You shove someone off of a pier, INTENTIONALLY, you are guilty of assault and battery. Or possibly assault consummated with battery. And of a law enforcement official.

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    2. The Park Ranger should be locked up?

      Because his uniform was wrinkled after exiting the water?

      Sorry, I just felt an urge come on to act silly.

      Mea Culpa.

      😇

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