Nanny state? What Nanny State?

https://www.pilotonline.com/government/virginia/vp-nw-virginia-cursing-law-repealed-20200220-n7m2cf5mifa4hnqeo4vdfi7dea-story.html

Hot s&^t, Motherf*&^%$#g, d@#*.

““Is it the case then that I will no longer be able to say if I hear my children swear … ‘If you swear, it’s a crime’?” asked state Sen. Jill Vogel, R-Fauquier, debating the bill Wednesday.”

And to Ms. Vogel, if you taught your kids better, maybe you wouldn’t have to threaten them with criminal prosecution. By the way, a “swear jar” is a good learning tool. And it can pay for a parent’s date night if hte kids are a real problem.

18 thoughts on “Nanny state? What Nanny State?

        1. Well, I can’t shoot them.

          I’ll tell you why there are times even a Libertarian will say their ought to be a law.

          Many years back, I was fishing in Lake Chesdin with my 9 year old daughter. We anchored by a favorite brush pile and started catching crappie. Shortly, a car pulled up at a nearby bridge and two young black men got out and started fishing on opposite sides of the bridge, about 100 feet apart.

          They proceeded to hold a conversation at the top of their lungs in which the universal pronoun was ‘motherfucker’ and the sole adjective was ‘fucking’ interspersed with references to bodily wastes and class 6 sexual felonies(at the time)

          When I pointed out to them that there was a child present, they simply directed their sexual references at her. Eventually we had to pick up and go fish elsewhere.

          They effectively polluted that section of the lake so it was unusable to others with children.

          We don’t allow people to spray sewerage in a public park and this is just another kind of pollution.

          Or, they could just let me shoot them.

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          1. I feel your pain. However, it has often been said that you cannot legislate morality. And while the language was offensive and the actions of your two “neighbors” were disgusting, it appears to fall under the First Amendment.

            Also, if you felt threatened by their language, you could have called the police. Yes some deserve to be shot, but then again…..

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          2. No, you can’t legislate morality, but you can regulate pollution, including sound pollution.

            We also legislate public nudity where children are present.

            How is this different?

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          3. Not everyone finds public nudity as “pollution”. Try Europe to see what I mean.

            I think damn near everything Trumps says is sound pollution. So should I advocate for him to be fined every time he says something I find offensive?

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          4. That’s where the ‘community standards’ test comes into play.

            And again, in a venue that is exclusively adult, the standards are far looser than where children are present.

            What is OK to say in a barroom is not OK to say on a playground.

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          5. Your ‘community’ may not be the same as others. SO YOU want everyone to adhere to YOUR idea of ‘community standards’. Or so it seems by your own words.

            A fishing hole is NOT a playground just for children. And a nude beach is NOT exclusively adult. Having been to one at age 15 (in CA with my father), I saw as many families whit small children as any other group.

            I wish you’d make up your mind. First it was public nudity. Now it is barroom v. playground.

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          6. The point is reasonable expectation.

            If you take your children to a nude beach, you have no reasonable expectation there will be no nudity.

            But on a public lake, with all the wonders of nature for a child to enjoy, you shouldn’t have to leave because of obscene language as it is reasonable to expect others who respect nature, and the innocence of childhood, to be there.

            Had I taken my daughter on a tugboat, there would be no reasonable expectation of decency.

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  1. Ms. Vogel has more problems than she realizes, and not completely from her children.

    Being a golfer I have long enjoyed missing a putt and coming out with a devilish “…’F×÷& this ‘F×÷&ing game and all the F×÷&ing F×÷&ers who play it!!” After years of everyone in my 3-some or foursome always laughing along with me, I realize how off-putting to some my comment may have been. I now play often with someone who is lots of fun and cusses worse than I ever dreamed of. Soo, I am working on removing that gloriously, fun word from my vocabulary. I can’t seem to bring myself to let her know I find one particular phrase of hers offensive. I know she means no harm by it, but I do cringe when she uses it. Sheesh, being a golfer sure is hard work, isn’t it.

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    1. Have to share this one; playing up in the mountains last year our group was on a lovely little par 3. It was a beautiful mid-morning in early June with nary a breeze to be felt. As we were lining up putts, somewhere out of sight the morning calm was shattered by a bellow of the single expletive FUCK!!!.

      Being in the bottom of the valley, the word, amazingly clearly, echoed at least 4 full times across the entire course. It took us a least 5 minutes to regain our composure enough to resume play.

      Nobody uttered a curse word the rest of the day, as any attempt at doing so would have been embarrassingly inadequate…

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    1. Good Gravy, Nancy. Don thinks it will end civility. Sorry, that civility ended when Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House. But Unconstitutional? He never noticed that. Oh, right. That isn’t in the Second Amendment.

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