Compared to past threats to humanity, climate change is minor league.
Scott Adams message to our frightened children
Published by Don Tabor
I am a former Chairman of the Tidewater Libertarian Party and was the 2007 LP candidate for the 14th district VA Senate. Previously, I was the Volunteer State Director for the FairTax. I am married 50 years with two grown children and 5 grandchildren. View all posts by Don Tabor
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While I’m actually a fan of the clever monkey theory and will continue to bet (and hope) we prevail, I’m concerned about the odds as they continue to diminish.
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I’ll take luck over hard work any day.
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Yes well I, for one, have always classified comedians, especially cartoonists and satirists, as society’s critical thinkers, who are capable of taking complex scientific issues and subjects, and reducing them to a quick 4-frame, easily digested, porridge of gaseous anecdotal misinformation that produces laugh-like farts.
Sorry Doc, but when you fall upon such learned men of science as Scott Adams for your subject matter expert.you’re really dragging anchor. Now, find out what Douglas Adams had to say on the issue and we can have a debate.
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While Adams is well informed on many issues, he is not a climate expert, but he is an expert on persuasion. And that is what this is post is really about. I regard the mass terror that has been inflicted on young people to be the worst instance of mass child abuse since the Children’s Crusade.
Children should not be terrorized or used as pawns for political issues.
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If Scott Adams were, like Dana with “Two Years before the Mast” and the “Seaman’s Rights Act of 1850-something-or-other”, to propose a “White Collar Defense Contractor’s Rights of 2020”, I would stand four-square behind him because his work is self-admittedly linked directly to 8 of the top defense companies and my own experiences while working for two of such.
But children are not the pawns of climate change and the issues of the science behind it, they are its heirs, just as you and your ilk have warned and frightened them of their inheritance of national debt — of course debt, while choking, is merely of the figurative variety.
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“worst instance of mass child abuse”
Naw, terrorizing children to believe in an invisible all powerful imaginary being is WAY worse…
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“Children should not be terrorized or used as pawns for political issues.”
You mean like the kids from Parkland HS?
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Exactly, gun control advocates were ruthlessly exploiting those children before the bodies were even cold. And within days, they had their own child-puppet spokesmen on TV.
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Sorry, Doc. Those kids went on their own with the support of GC advocates. They stepped up when they became affected by the situation directly. To say they were exploited for their views is disingenuous.
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Quite a lot of smarmy condescension packed into an essay that basically says that we need to do something and probably will.
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“Don’t listen to the world’s climate scientists, they won’t tell you the facts. Listen to me, Scott Adams, the right wing crank who wrote ‘Dilbert.'”
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Please do show us where “the World’s Climate Scientists” hove told us we have 12 years before the world is doomed, or that we face an existential threat at all.
You can’t. Even the alarmist IPCC Interim Report doesn’t say that.
Politicians and ‘Journalists’ have taken what scientists actually said and have run with it to create a political movement. See the earlier post here to avoid repetition
https://tidewaterforum.blog/2019/09/22/climate-propaganda-from-the-pilot-again/
If you really believe the alarmists are sincere, why are they rejecting nuclear power and insisting on wind and solar? Follow the money.
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“Please do show us where “the World’s Climate Scientists” hove told us we have 12 years before the world is doomed, or that we face an existential threat at all.”
That’s suspiciously specific so I’ll assume there probably isn’t a document that says the word “doomed” in relation to the 2030 CO2 reduction goal. What scientists have “actually said” is that we need to control our emissions or life is going to become more terrible for many people. Probably not so much for us, living comfortably here in the US, but for island nations and people already dealing with food insecurity. The incidence and severity of droughts, wildfires, tropical storms, etc. have already started increasing.
And you’re suggesting this is all some elaborate conspiracy to sell a few solar panels? The Climate Change Cabal manufactured a crisis and wants to restructure the global economy because . . . they’re invested in wind and solar? That seems a bit far-fetched to me. Then again, maybe I just need a condescending talking-to from a retired cartoonist.
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“The incidence and severity of droughts, wildfires, tropical storms, etc. have already started increasing.”
Cite?
No they aren’t.
Only in models, there is no observed increase in overall drought or any other form of extreme weather.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/10/09/noaa-destroys-global-warming-link-to-extreme-weather/#7183aff950c8
Not really trying to put you on the spot, but there are too many people who just ‘know’ stuff from media reports that simply isn’t supported by actual science.
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https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2018EF000825
Here’s an article from a peer-reviewed academic journal dedicated to climate science, published in 2018.
I realize it may not carry the same weight as a 5 year old opinion column from the business press, written by a guy who works for a libertarian think tank, but it’s all the Cabal would send me on such short notice.
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Well, as the NOAA Study the article was based on is very technical and 108 pages long, I thought you might prefer a summary, but here is the NOAA study.
Click to access BAMS_EEE_2013_Full_Report.pdf
From the summary (p90)
. “A failure to find anthropo-genic signals for several events examined in this report does not prove anthropogenic climate change had no role to play.Rather, an anthropogenic contribution to these events that is distinguishable from natural climate variability could not be detected by these analyses. ”
In short, after analyzing a great number of extreme weather events, no connection to climate change could be demonstrated.
Hurricane Harvey was a freak event, in that it stalled partly over land and partly over warm water for a protracted period. That is weather, not climate.
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“12 years”?
I must have missed something. Regardless, I agree that the serious issue of global warming is being overstated as to timing and probability by politicians and the media.
However, the opposite (Chinese hoax) being pushed by the current Administration is potentially worse.
And while the increased use of nuclear energy has its drawbacks, doing so may be necessary to avoid the 8.5 (or 6, or even 4.5) pathway(s).
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The IPCC 2018 interim report said that we had to reduce CO2 by 50% by 2030 in order to prevent a greater than 1.5C increase above 1850.
Politicians interpreted that as the end of the world and the news media ran with it as us having 12 years before apocalypse.
We are already 1C above 1850, so do you really think 0.5C more is an existential threat?
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I had discounted that as hyperbole and didn’t think it was your reference.
2040 is a more legitimate potential tipping point…
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“I’ve come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies:
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Worthy….
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It applies to Climate as well. People just assume that the climate of their youth is normal and that any change is bad.
But consider the lifespan of Thomas Jefferson. As a farmer and naturalist, he kept careful records of fruit tree blossoming over many years and was well aware of the warming of the climate compared to his youth.
But the climate of his youth was in the depths of the Little Ice Age, and there was great hardship associated with it.
It has been warmer than now before, warmer than the projected warming we have now.
The last interglacial was was a full 8C (14F) warmer than today. It was 4 to 6C warmer earlier in this interglacial in the Holocene optimum. Nothing really bad happened.
A world another 2C above today(3C above preindustrial) would be different, but no more than today is from Jefferson’s youth, and not necessarily bad. (Note that 2C above today is an outside projection, 1C is far more likely the peak for this cycle.
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Yes, and the good news is that insects with a short generational lifespan will adapt.
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