A bill gets past McConnell, with irony.

https://www.pilotonline.com/news/virginia-beach-mass-shooting/vp-nw-keith-cox-post-office-20190822-emt3e5rscjcyhj5lhclxrrozmm-story.html

Apparently it is much easier to honor victims of our gun culture than it is to address solutions.

90% of Americans want better background checks, but McConnell and now the flip/flop president won’t hear of it.

NICS is hugely flawed since the database is not solid. Data is often missing, inadequate or wrong. Enforcement of purchase violations is non-existent. Red flags are ignored.

Not that Mr. Cox doesn’t deserve a memorial like this. However, I am sure he, his family, friends and co-workers would much prefer another birthday celebration.

IMHO

9 thoughts on “A bill gets past McConnell, with irony.

  1. RE: “I am sure he, his family, friends and co-workers would much prefer another birthday celebration.”

    I don’t disagree with the statement, but I have to ask, So what?

    Is it so important, so necessary to find ugly things to say about the president that Rep. Elaine Luria’s bill must be pressed into service for that purpose?

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    1. …”ugly things to say about the president”….

      May be ugly, but it IS factual. If you don’t believe so go, back to the trajectory of events and Trump’s own words after Parkland, and more recently his own words following El Paso and Dayton.

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    2. “…Trump’s Aug. 7 claim that “we can bring up background checks like we’ve never had before.”

      Politico

      “… the president had said he was looking to implement “very meaningful background checks,” claiming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is on board.”

      “…the system is overall “very, very strong.” He went on to express fears about the potential for a “slippery slope” where “all of a sudden everything gets taken away.”

      CBS News

      Over a period of less than two weeks, after a tête-à-tête with LaPierre, he changed his mind. And I understand why. The NRA donated $30 million to Trumps election campaign.

      A definition of such a shift in politics as “flip/flop” is common and, in this case, with Trump, deserving.

      If you think that is ugly, that is your opinion.

      As far as the off hand “so what”, my point was obvious and noted in the title with the word “irony”.

      With the vast majority of the nation clamoring years for action on at least better background checks and Congress doing absolutely nothing, the quick approval of a memorial for a recent victim is pretty telling.

      To put it another way, the sickening cliche of “thoughts and prayers” instead of listening to the American people for some improvement on background checks is getting really old.

      And that is what I think is truly “ugly”.

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      1. RE: “To put it another way, the sickening cliche of ‘thoughts and prayers’ instead of listening to the American people for some improvement on background checks is getting really old.”

        I get all that. However, Luria’s bill had nothing to do with gun control. It stretches logic to the breaking point to complain that Trump signing it into law is somehow “ironic” or indicative of bad faith.

        To conflate Luria’s positive bill with Trump’s rhetoric on gun control is a purely gratuitous slam. It advances no purpose and serves no public interest.

        Viewed in isolation, the bill itself is of little or no consequence. That’s why I ask, So what?

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        1. You still don’t get it.

          A “thoughts and prayers” bill, which the post office naming bill is, sails through the Senate and the president. But a background check bill has been stalled forever.

          That is not a gratuitous slam. That is an outrageous fact.

          That is as clear as I can describe irony.

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  2. Fixing the NICS system is a lot easier than new laws, so lets do that first.

    Here in VA background checks are done by the State Police, using both their own database and the FBI’s NICS database. Lying on the application is both a state and Federal felony. So, Mr Herring and local Commonwealth’s Attorney’s can fix it for our use without Federal effort.

    The disqualifying crimes are nearly all state offenses, so the failure to get information on the database due to plea bargains and null process are also State problems.

    Perhaps if Mr Herring would do his job instead of ceaselessly harassing legal gun owners, the system could work quite well in Virginia.

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  3. We know that NICS base is ragged. So how do we ensure that there are no plea bargains and null processes in all of the thousands of jurisdictions nationwide?

    You do realize that would turn our judicial system on its head. In many areas the rate is 95% plea bargaining. And if no pleas, then jury trials taking months if not years to set.

    Prosecutors often load the charges well beyond the actual crime to encourage pleas.

    You are making the same complaint with no solution. Water is coming through the ceiling of your house and you are running out of buckets. Time to invest in a new roof.

    I have offered to raise taxes, hire many more judges and public defenders, if we are to get a better data base. Even that will take time. Then expand the wait long enough to allow for the lag.

    If law abiding gun owners want to keep that right, they need to be part of the solution to ensure that only law abiding and sane people can bear arms. And that might mean taxes and fees to beef up the vetting system.

    IMHO

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    1. “So how do we ensure that there are no plea bargains and null processes ”

      We don’t. Plea bargain all the drug and shoplifting cases you want.

      But NEVER plea bargain a stalking case, or an assault with a weapon, or domestic battery case. Those, and race or religious based assaults, are the precursors to greater violence.

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