11 thoughts on “RealClear Politics: Trump Didn’t Call Neo-Nazis ‘Fine People.’ Here’s Proof.

  1. Out of the couple of hundred neo-Nazis and racists in the group chanting “Jews will not replace us”, how many were true history buffs only concerned with heritage? (And what “heritage” by the way?)

    The group marched together, Nazi flags mixed with American and Confederate battle flags.

    That is the salient point. Trump had no idea how many or if any of the marchers were strictly non-racist Lee fans.
    Looking at the videos, left and right, it was impossible to tell.

    If hundreds chanted Nazi slogans, who were the quiet ones who shook their head in disagreement…but kept marching.

    If I am not mistaken, it was a “Unite the Right” march. Not a save the Lee statue march.

    But even so, marching with the Nazis puts one in their camp regardless if the reason if for a cleaner park, Lee’s statue or any other reason.

    And Trump should have, as president, recognized that fact and not given some kind of legitimacy to the handful of possible, and anonymous, Lee admirers. Because by doing so, he gave legitimacy to all the marchers.

    Birds of a feather…

    IMHO

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    1. RE: “Out of the couple of hundred neo-Nazis and racists in the group chanting “Jews will not replace us”, how many were true history buffs only concerned with heritage?”

      Of those who wore neo-Nazis regalia or chanted neo-Nazis slogans I’d say none were “fine people.” However, the record clearly shows those were not the people President Trump was referring to with his “fine people” comment. Thus, it is time to put the “fine people” hoax to bed and move on.

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    1. A universe where the president claims neo-Nazis are fine people is a universe where the president was born in Kenya. There are always people who believe wild and irrational things, but we rightfully disdain them.

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  2. It is a mark of Trumpism that to be a True Believer you have to deny the evidence of your own senses. I personally heard Trump’s complete statement and so did you. He was straining like crazy to find some equivalence between Nazis marching through the streets and people protesting Nazis marching through the streets. There is none.

    And now again you use one of Trump’s favorite words to deny clear evidence – “hoax.” As in “Russia hoax.” There is NO “hoax.” His words are a matter of public record and anyone can find them, listen to them AND think for themselves about them. If this were an isolated example of his White Nationalist pandering then some sort of slack cutting might be justified. It isn’t. He rose to power on the back of race-baiting Birtherism that ONLY racists would find persuasive or even tolerate.

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    1. RE: “[Trump’s] words are a matter of public record and anyone can find them, listen to them AND think for themselves about them.”

      True. In fact, Trump’s words on the record are the substance of this thread. The issue here is that people who want to believe their own interpretation of some of those words must defend not-believing a different interpretation of those same words and not-believing other words which are on the record.

      The defense you offer is to claim that everyone who doesn’t agree with you is a racist. The fallacy of your reasoning should be obvious.

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      1. Anyone who believes Birtherism OR promotes Birtherism or who tolerates Birtherism in a political leader is – or might as well be – a racist. It has nothing to do with whether someone agrees or disagrees with me.

        These “other words” that Trump may utter under extreme pressure – as when he backed down from his Charlottesville statements – are called lip service. His actions, rhetoric and tweets present a clear pattern of pandering to racists.

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          1. I believe it to be an objective fact that only racists and people pandering to racists would treat the birtherist attacks on President Obama seriously.

            I would add the opinion that anyone who tolerates a political leader doing the kind of racist pandering that Trump engages in is either a racist himself or someone who so hates America as she is today that they cynically tolerate this racist behavior in furtherance of their mission to destroy our country.

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          2. RE: “I believe it to be an objective fact that only racists and people pandering to racists would treat the birtherist attacks on President Obama seriously.”

            I don’t. But that’s the point, isn’t it? You are asserting that your subjective opinions must be accepted by others as objectively factual.

            I would add that your disregard for the valid opinions of others is inherently intolerant, itself a kind of hatred.

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