Rand Paul comes back to his LIE that our government funded research that lead to the emergence of the Covid-19 virus. Interesting to watch this sociopath make his threats of prison (Lock him up!) directed at one of the most respected people in our country. Trying to out Trump Trump but not very good at it.
There is a tiny fact hidden in this yet another “conservative” LIE. Funding from the NIH did lead to a small sub-contract at Wuhan for ongoing studies that had nothing to do with the pandemic virus. That is enough for such people. Any chance to attack our government, China or Fauci is just too good for such a person as Rand Paul to pass up. My prediction – try as he might, Rand Paul will not be the next Trump.
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RE: “Funding from the NIH did lead to a small sub-contract at Wuhan for ongoing studies that had nothing to do with the pandemic virus.”
Fauci claims the grant had nothing to do with the pandemic virus. Whether he is telling the truth or not remains to be seen.
More generally, any U.S. funding of the Wuhan lab will be problematic should the lab-leak theory of Covid’s origins be substantiated.
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Of course. Anything feeds a conspiracy.
Trump and Putin have the same number of letters in their last names. So does Fauci.
Egads, so does COVID.
Proof positive that either all of them are involved in undermining Western Civilization or that conspiracy nuts are just that.
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RE: “Of course. Anything feeds a conspiracy.”
What conspiracy are you referring to? Mr. Murphy admits NIH funded the Wuhan lab. At issue are the consequences of that fact. Do you want to know what those consequences are, or do you assume you already know?
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“Mr. Murphy admits NIH funded the Wuhan lab”
It was hardly an “admission.” Ron Paul’s LIES are about what that funding paid for. That there was a miniscule bit of funding for services rendered has never been in doubt.
The American funding of the Wuhan lab amounted to $66,000 in 2020. It had been $133,000 in previous years. It was a sub-contract to an NIH contractor for the collection of samples to be used by American researchers studying possible virus threats from wildlife.
This is classic “conservative” bullshit. Take a molehill and with lies, innuendo and distortion try to make it a mountain. This tiny NIH involvement at Wuhan is the basis for the jackass Senator accusing Dr. Fauci of killing 4 million people and his promise that he would be held accountable.
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RE: “This tiny NIH involvement at Wuhan is the basis for the jackass Senator accusing Dr. Fauci of killing 4 million people and his promise that he would be held accountable.”
In the video it is Dr. Fauci who accuses Ron Paul of making that accusation by inference. Paul doesn’t do so explicitly. At issue in the exchange is whether Dr. Fauci is lying when he claims the NIH never funded “gain of function” research.
As liars often do, Fauci accuses his accuser of lying.
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“As liars often do, Fauci accuses his accuser of lying.”
You BADLY misspelled Trump. Bigly. For 4 years you denied that.
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“As liars often do, Fauci accuses his accuser of lying.”
You really are deplorable. Perfect Trumpkin. You have no evidence that Fauci is lying. And plenty of evidence that he is not. But there you go again with your baseless slander. Typical.
Dr. Fauci knows what he is talking about. Ron Paul does not. Dr. Fauci tried to provide the grandstanding jackass with the evidence of the truth of the matter but was cut off by this creep trying to lay the blame for the pandemic on Fauci and our government. A government run by Donald Trump, by the way.
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“ Mr. Murphy admits NIH funded the Wuhan lab.”
“Funded the lab” purposefully sounds like all the monies came from NIH. A lie.
Were some funds approved during the last administration?
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You forgot the boogeyman, Soros.
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“Whether he is telling the truth or not remains to be seen.”
Uh, no it doesn’t.
Rand has been making this accusation for months and it has been repeatedly checked.
It is a very ugly trait to constantly react to facts you do not like with allegations of dishonesty. Or “corruption.” But you people do this all the time even when the evidence is clear. In this case, the fact checker article lays out what is true and what is not around this “conservative” LIE. If you cannot read it you should get a WAPO subscription to stay better informed. Through Amazon it is not expensive.
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RE: “It is a very ugly trait to constantly react to facts you do not like with allegations of dishonesty.”
That’s what you are doing here.
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Uh, no. I have provided evidence that the one who is lying in this exchange is Ron Paul. YOU are the one who impugned Dr. Fauci’s honesty WITHOUT evidence.
Evidence vs No evidence. See the difference?
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RE: “I have provided evidence that the one who is lying in this exchange is Ron Paul.”
No, you haven’t. Paul claims that the funded work qualifies as “gain of function” research. Fauci denies it, but his explanations are dubious. It remains to be seen whether Fauci’s denials are justified.
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How are Fauci’s explanations “dubious”?
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Rand Paul should concentrate on being an actual Senator or go back to being an eye doctor. Like Scott Atlas, who should have stayed in radiology, his rhetoric is dangerous to the lives of his constituents and any one else who has faith in him.
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“How are Fauci’s explanations “dubious”?”
Easy answer: He doesn’t believe ANYTHING Fauci says.
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Hey, I know. Rand Paul could set up a new Board that could certify him in virology. Then he could talk to Dr. Fauci as an equal
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RE: “How are Fauci’s explanations ‘dubious’?”
His main reason for claiming the NIH never funded gain-of-function research at WIV is that NIH defined the funded lab work as not gain of function. That’s like a car thief denying he stole a car because he only borrowed it.
The explanation dubious is because numerous scientists outside the NIH have described the funded lab work as gain of function research. There’s more to the story that suggests corruption at NIH, but that’s the gist.
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MSM bad unless it has a strong conservative bias or campaigns directly for conservative candidates.
Then MSM good.
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The wannabes are just that. They can try as hard as they want to be the “next” 45. But, luckily for us and the world, there is only one. And indictments could potentially sideline him from ever running again. That and an antidote to the Kool-Aid folks have drunk.
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Electing Rand Paul to the Senate has saved 1000s of American lives… his patients.
Wir sind ein Rand nachbar.
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Rand Paul is not a Trump Wannabe, he is a Ron Paul Wannabe, and the Senate could use another 99 of those.
WTF was the NIH giving even $1 to a Chinese virology lab for gain of function research. Want to help North Korea develop ICBMs next?
If gain of function research was to be done at all, it should have been in a secure US military facility.
And then burned.
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“WTF was the NIH giving even $1 to a Chinese virology lab for gain of function research.”
Repeating a lying liar’s LIE does not make it true. Read the fact check provided. We sent people to work in China to study wildlife-human interface dangers. The lab there collected samples and some storage space for OUR project for little more than a pittance. Your invoking North Korea given these facts is laughable.
Rand Paul, fake-Board Certified Opthamologist, would make a good poster boy for what is wrong with you people. I won’t list his many qualifying characteristics for that poster boy role lest you feel insulted. But, I will say that he is an embarrassment to the people who sent him to the Senate based on nothing but his Daddy’s name.
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You seriously think that research done in a Chinese lab with weapons potential is not going to get to the Chinese military?
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Whatever may or may not be going on in those labs, it is not a bad thing for people from our country and people from WHO to be embedded with them.
As mentioned earlier this “issue” is typical molehill into mountain “conservative” bullshit. Without substance. Without truth. Without merit.
And, I mention again that this involvement was ongoing throughout Trump’s Presidency. Why are you people trying to throw bricks at Fauci and not the man in charge? Never mind. I know why.
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Trump administration funded this for 4 years. So forget the whining.
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And how many under $1million projects were there in Obama’s terms that he never heard of?
The question here is not about Biden or Trump, it is about Saint Fauci.
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This kind of funding has spanned administrations over the years. Why is it you only have issue with only the Democratic administrations? Could it be because you are a hypocrite?
Just asking a question.
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I have an issue with placing trust in the Chinese no matter what administration is in place.
I also have an issue with bureaucrats making such decisions on their own.
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But you only state your disdain about Democrats. Hypocrite to the end.
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Well then, can we just agree that Paul is lying in order to appeal to a certain politician.
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Funny, Trump is not responsible for what you style as a major breach of national security because the amount is small. According to you we face weaponized threats because of this tiny funding. Whatever
happened to “The buck stops here?”
You are clearly talking out of both sides of your mouth.
Interesting that you join in the Fauci bashing clown circus. It shows your true respect for both science and personal integrity.
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RE: “Repeating a lying liar’s LIE does not make it true.”
There was no lie. You and Fauci are only imagining one.
At issue is whether the funded work in the lab qualifies as gain of function research. The NIH says it didn’t. Other scientists say it did.
The issue is unresolved. Any assertion that NIH didn’t break the law is unproved.
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Whatever happened, it was on Trump’s watch. So blame him as the president and head of the administration.
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What “law” are you talking about?
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…”he is a Ron Paul Wannabe,”
Fine. Then let him retire like his dad did.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/debate-erupts-between-trusted-medical-doctor-and-dr-fauci
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Funny.
You do understand irony, right. Look at the opening with that understanding . . .
“WASHINGTON, D.C.—During an explosive Senate hearing this week, Senator and trusted medical doctor Rand Paul argued with Anthony Fauci—a dangerous conspiracy theorist who thinks vaccines don’t work and that the government is not funding the creation of medical abominations in secret labs.”
All of this irony is directed at “conservatives.” For good reason.
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Since when is Rand Paul a “trusted medical doctor”? His specialty is ophthalmology, I believe. That does give him any trust in infectious diseases.
And calling Fauci “a dangerous conspiracy theorist who thinks vaccines don’t work” is idiotic, false, and STUPID. Show me once where Fauci 1) spread a conspiracy or started one and 2) that he thinks vaccines don’t work.
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
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Spoiler alert:
BabylonBee is a Christian conservative knockoff of The Onion.
Political satire is the game. Oddly enough their articles sound like what OANN, et.al., is publishing as “real” news.
Humor is in the eye of the hurricane. A calming, temporary respite from the raging political storms.
INMHANEO
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I knew that. But apparently SOME posters appear to be unaware of the sources they post. And they use them a LOT!!!
Never knew that Christian Conservatives had a sense of humor. 😇
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Irony alert.
Ironic humor is based on stating the opposite of the truth. In this case this piece of satire is mocking the “conservative” hyperbolic characterizations of the players.
Rand Paul is NOT a trusted doctor. Everyone know he has a fake Board certification.
Fauci is NOT a conspiracy theorist and he DOES believe in vaccines.
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The Bee is an equal opportunity lampooner.
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Yet you posted it as a apparently trusted source. Interesting.
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No. I posted it for fun. I didn’t think there was anyone left on the planet who didn’t know the Bee was satire, like the Onion.
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You forgot the chosen sarcasm emoji 😇
And you have used it before as a serious source, so now you got busted for it and are now trying to cover it up?
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I have never used the Bee as anything other than satire. I’ve posted stuff form the Onion here as well, for the same reason. A little humor lowers the tension.
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And there is NOTHING that can touch The Onion.
Full disclosure: I have a cousin that wrote for the Onion while in college. She is now a producer (Emmy winning) at The Cartoon Network. And she gets her GLORIOUS sense of humor from her dad.
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