Inside that idea that isn’t an organization

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Reason – Antifa infiltrated

An interesting read on the workings and strategy of Antifa and its decentralized organization and goals.

Published by Don Tabor

I am a former Chairman of the Tidewater Libertarian Party and was the 2007 LP candidate for the 14th district VA Senate. Previously, I was the Volunteer State Director for the FairTax. I am married 50 years with two grown children and 5 grandchildren.

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      1. Yup.That’s one way to resolve Antifa’s strategy of forcing a “dilemma action.” I hope it doesn’t come to that.

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      2. Are you talking about the supremacist gangs you favor?

        They are worse. That Trump gives them credibility is beyond anything we have ever seen in this nation.s now they are cheering their “dear leader” and making logos from his planted phrases.

        Your support is just another push in the direction of those gangs.

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  2. “ I’ve seen activists cheer the murder of a member of the conservative group Patriot Prayer.“

    And don’t forget the cheering and support for a White wannabe gang member killing 2 and wounding another.

    At least show some modicum of reality that both extreme sides in the street mayhem are to blame.

    The really sad part is that the regime, through Trump, has explicitly threatened violence if he loses. That is treasonous behavior, in my opinion.

    Add in the calculated use of “stand back, stand by” for a gang logo from a cleverly planted phrase by the president. Trumps “yellow shirt” gangs are itching for violence.

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      1. “That is truly a deranged comparison.”

        So according to your post, if they individual does the killing agrees with you, he should be cheered, but if he disagrees, he should be vilified?

        Those perpetrating violence should be punished to the fullest extant of the law. Regardless of which “side” they are in. Can you say you believe that?

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        1. Has nothing to do with sides.

          Michael Reinoehl stalked and murdered Aeeron Danielson in cold blood.

          Kyle Rittenhouse was attacked and retreated as far as possible before defending himself from his attackers.

          That is the difference,

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          1. The courts will decide, which is the norm when people are shot to death.

            Your man was planning to shoot people based on his lie that the auto dealership called for his assistance in security.

            Both killers brought weapons to a protest and the results are dead Americans.

            You have yet to even approach why it is OK for the president to threaten violence if he doesn’t win and to encourage armed punks to support him with violence. That makes him complicit if even one person gets shot around the election. Any other person encouraging such behavior would be arrested, and rightfully so.

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          3. Which of those would be a capital offense that would justify the mob’s attempt the murder him?

            He may, or may not, have been in violation of some local gun laws, but he was certainly in a place was legally allowed to be and had every right to defend himself against a potentially lethal attack.

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      2. Why?

        Both cases had armed, ignorant people going to protests looking for trouble. Neither were invited or welcomed. People died that wouldn’t have had arms not been in the equation.

        Trump has called for violence if he loses. He also encourages his people to storm the polls to make sure everything is as he wants.

        So what do we have now? The potential for a bunch of camo dressed yahoos standing around polling places. Intimidation and violence are just a sliver of humanity away.

        Is this what you want in your country?

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          2. “I suggest you read the underlying report instead of the news articles.”

            Well anarchism is not a left wing ideology, so stop calling Antifa left.

            So we should just say that the non-Anitifa terror gangs are doing the most damage, the most killing and the most terrorism.

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          5. As I asked before.

            How many people have the murdered?

            How many police stations have they burned?

            I would add, How many policemen have they ambushed? Businesses destroyed? Buildings defaced?

            All of those are violent acts committed for the purpose of political intimidation, pretty much the definition of terrorism.

            Pretty much all of this violence in the last year has been by, or on behalf of, Antifa or BLM.

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          6. Well, how many crimes compared to the non-Antifa gangs and individuals inspired by them.

            The mass shooting in Texas probably killed more people than Antifa. Muslims attacked synagogues defaced and attacked, the list goes on.

            ADL and other groups have plenty of info and keeps track of hate crimes.

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          8. To the dead and injured it is moot.

            Antifa, as explained under oath by Wray, the FBI director is not the biggest worry. Anti-government and supremacist gangs are.

            Lone wolves read the crap from the White gangs and create mayhem. That is more than enough organization to kill, loot and destroy.

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          9. https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-supremacists-russia-pose-top-threats-homeland-security-says-11602030356

            This regime’s Homeland Security says our great threat:

            “Racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists…specifically white supremacist extremists…will reminthe most persistent and lethal threat to the homeland.”

            “…White supremacists carried out half of all deadly attacks in 2018 and 2019… Those attacks resulted in the majority of deaths, 39 of 48…”

            This was in the latest Homeland Security report.

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          10. The link is, of course, paywalled, but the fallcy here is that simply counting up bodies, nearly all of which stem from a single act by a single individual, is not a valid measure of a terrorist threat.

            Terrorism is the use of violence, or the threat of violence, to achieve political ends.

            What changes in policy did that shooter seek? What did he gain?

            Then look at the political success in some locales, such as Oregon and Minnesota, as a result of focused left wing terrorism and any rational threat analysis shows that the left wing is the greater terror threat.

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          11. You are not paying attention, Don. The most recent disturbances and civil unrest in some locales are making the headlines.

            But the White supremacy issues have been going on for years.

            Political: both the El Paso shooter and the Pittsburgh synagogue killer were making very political statements about immigration destroying White America.

            Besides all that, the anarchist issues with anonymous folks that come and go are not necessarily just Antifa motivated.

            If the administration is saying White supremacist gangs are the biggest threat, then it mus really be bad. After all , they have been blaming everything on Antifa, including the past due potato salad in your fridge.

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          14. “Get rid of the ballots and we’ll have a very peaceful-there won’t be a transfer, frankly. There will be a continuation.”

            This disjointed sentence brings the obvious question: “and if we don’t get rid of the ballots…”.

            For our president to say that it will be peaceful IF HE WINS is a call to arms if he loses.

            Add in the “Stand back and stand by” which made the Proud Boys wet their diapers with another call to arms by the president. So much so the changed their logo.

            Denying that these and other recent statements about the legitimacy of the election where he tell people to go to the polls and verify the count or vote twice to make sure you vote. What are those faithful going to do at the polls anyway? Force their way in to watch? Stand outside with guns?

            Trump is playing with fire and you have no problem with that?

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          15. Trump hasn’t threatened anything regarding the election beyond going to court if there is reason to suspect fraud.

            Don’t project your paranoia on him,

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          16. I quoted him verbatim. No projection needed.

            I can’t believe we are having this discussion.

            If Obama had said in 2012 that it will be peaceful if I win your hair would be on fire.

            If he had told the New Black Panthers to “stand by…”, you would have add fuel to your hair blaze.

            A deluded man believed crap from the right about a pizza parlor and shot up the place. And you pass on Trump’s obvious calls for violence during and after November 3.

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    2. RE: “At least show some modicum of reality that both extreme sides in the street mayhem are to blame.”

      The suject at hand is Antifa. The right-wing extremists don’t deserve equal time.

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      1. The subject is about anarchists. As I said earlier, that is not an Antifa exclusive. Right wing gangs are the same.

        But you are correct in that with this regime, the right wing gangs are allies so they don’t get the attention they deserve as the kill and disrupt.

        Antifa is bad, supremacy gangs are much, much worse.

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      2. RE: “Antifa is bad, supremacy gangs are much, much worse.”

        Is that a fact? How could such a thing even be proved?

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        1. That is certainly felony assault and should be treated as such.

          I guess we could go back and forth and pick out individual incidents that outrage the senses.

          So how does that excuse Trump’s call for violence? Do you think that is a good idea to empower White gangs to do the president’s bidding?

          “Get rid of the ballots and we’ll have a very peaceful-there won’t be a transfer, frankly. There will be a continuation.”

          NBC News, 9/23/2020

          “Stand back and stand by”. The new logo and T-shirt slogan based on Trump’s direct orders for the Proud Boys from the debate.

          This is the America you want? A president who authorizes and encourages violence against his own citizens whom he is sworn to defend?

          Pick out all the egregious anecdotes, videos and incidents and then excuse a president for calling for more violence?

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        2. “In a report released last week, the Escalating Terrorism Problem in the United States, CSIS analyzes 25 years of domestic terrorism incidents and finds that the majority of attacks and plots have come from the far right.

          The report says “the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994, and the total number of rightwing attacks and plots has grown significantly during the past six years”, with the far right launching two-thirds of attacks and plots in 2019, and 90% of those in 2020.

          The report adds: “Far-right terrorism has significantly outpaced terrorism from other types of perpetrators.” The second most significant source of attacks and plots in the US has been “religious extremists”, almost all “Salafi jihadists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaida”.

          The report shows the far left has been an increasingly negligible source of attacks since the mid 2000s.

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/27/us-far-right-violence-terrorist-threat-analysis

          https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/politics/charts-explain-us-hate-groups/index.html

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          1. I would suggest to you that the definition of “terrorist incidents” may be distorting the narrative. Antifa and BLM might otherwise be described as an insurgency that only sometimes uses “terrorist” tactics.”

            To illustrate, one university study recently found that riots associated with the George Floyd case have caused more than $2 billion in property damage. How much property damage have the right-wing “terrorists” caused?

            As I said, there is no easy way to prove that one faction is more dangerous than the other. If you find one, please let us know.

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